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2x10 or 4x10?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by kirbywrx, Jul 11, 2003.


  1. kirbywrx

    kirbywrx formerly James Hetfield

    Jul 27, 2000
    Melbourne, Australia.
    I dont know how to word this, but im going to try my best :D

    What is the difference between a 2x10 and 4x10, is it OHM load/ccapability, or how "loud" it can go, or what? Im starting to look at a few cabs and i can tell the difference :confused:

    More deifined, im looking at what is better value for money...a GK 2x10 (RBS or RBH) or a Hartke Transporter 4x10
     
  2. Ívar Þórólfsson

    Ívar Þórólfsson Mmmmmm... Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    Kopavogur, Iceland
    In my humble experience, if portability is not an issue, I would recommend 4x10" given the same power and ohm ratings.

    Why?

    Well, four 10" speakers move a whole lot more air then two 10" speakers, which roughly translates into being louder.

    That´s my experience at least.

    IMHO, YMMV, 0.02$ etc.

    I can´t give you advice which cab you should get, that is ultimately up to you and what tone you like, but 4x10 is louder then 2x10 IMHO.
     
  3. sricabla

    sricabla

    Jul 4, 2003
    San Francisco
    I think if you want more portability, Check out the Acme Low B2. People are really surprised when they hear this cabinet.Not only is it just 2 10's but the output that these cabinets put out "almost" surpass a 4X10 cabinet. They also make a 4X10 cabinet. Check them out... The only drawback is that the cabinets really need a lot of power. They sound very neutral so they may not be what you're looking for...but give them a try.
     
  4. Scott D

    Scott D

    Apr 21, 2003
    Minneapolis, MN
    dude, whatever you do, do not get the Transporter. many people say that they sound the exact same as XL's and that the XL's only add a bunch of weight and a funky control plate. but dude, if you want your cab to last longer than 5 months, get an XL. its only $100 more than the Transporter new, and its amazing. i have one. but the main difference between a 2x10 and a 4x10 is just handling. a normal 2x10 (except for an acme) doesn't handle low notes very well (distorts and whatnot) while a 4x10 handles them much better. and a 4x10 has twice as much speaker surface area than a 2x10.

    Good Luck,
    Scott
     
  5. But is a 2x12 as loud as a 4x10?
     
  6. Ívar Þórólfsson

    Ívar Þórólfsson Mmmmmm... Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    Kopavogur, Iceland
    Well, if we look at it in terms of speaker surface, then no. The 4x10" move more air then the 2x12". But the 12" are most likely to have a bit more bottom then the 10"
     
  7. also doubble the amount of air you move and you get a 3db increase.
     
  8. Dondi

    Dondi

    May 3, 2003
    NYC
    Response and power handling are a voodoo mix of useable cone area, magnet structure and weight, and cabinet design.
    In general, the more absolute cone area you have,the deeper response you will get. However I have found that even if you have a killer large bass driver, it won't be able to sound as good as multiples of smaller drivers. The smaller speakers will retain their quick response (better highs) and because of the combined cone area avaiable will produce more low frequecies, especially if the design is vented properly. So unless you are into multiple speaker cabinets, multiple smaller speakersvwill usually be a more sufficient combination.
     
  9. I'll second that.
     
  10. I would like (2) 2x10's. That would still be 410's but is more portable. I've been playing alot recently and weight has become an issue with me. I personally won't buy anymore bass cabinet over 60lbs.
     
  11. I'd like to make a large live rig include triamping, sending the lows to a 1/21, and a guitar 4x12 for the mids, and a 2x8 and tweeter for the highs

    And cross over the cabs for the optimal useable frequencies for each cab. But for now, I may just get a used ampeg head, and an avatar 2x12
     
  12. kirbywrx

    kirbywrx formerly James Hetfield

    Jul 27, 2000
    Melbourne, Australia.
    Well mabye someone can tell me which would suit my needs better.

    I have a peavey TNT 115BW, a 15 incher. And perhaps a 2 or 4x10 will give me a bigger range of the sound spectrum? or let the 10's take care of the highs, and 15 look after the lows.

    does that help?
     
  13. Trevorus

    Trevorus

    Oct 18, 2002
    Urbana, IL
    hey, shaz, your rig could probably be heard from the other side of RI, couldn't it? I mean, it takes up about half the state or so, right?:D
     
  14. For anyone looking for a 2x10 or 2x12 I would STRONGLY recommend the Ampeg portabass cabs. These things are great sounding, and also incredibly light. My 2x10 weighs like 30 lbs.
     
  15. Scott D

    Scott D

    Apr 21, 2003
    Minneapolis, MN
    yeah guys, light neodynium speakers are popping up all over the place. if money isn't an issue, check out the Epfani 410UL
     
  16. I've been thinking about going with a 2x8 myself. Does anyone make these? I know Ashdown did at one time...are there any other companies? I don't have the time or knowledge to make my own cabinets. I wonder if Avatar would make one.
     
  17. rumblethump

    rumblethump Supporting Member

    Mar 25, 2000
    Pioneer CA. 95666
    " have a peavey TNT 115BW, a 15 incher. And perhaps a 2 or 4x10 will give me a bigger range of the sound spectrum? or let the 10's take care of the highs, and 15 look after the lows.

    does that help? "

    The TNT doesn't have a lot of power. I would look for an efficient 2-10 cabinet. 1w 1m 101db.
    The Peavey 2-10 TVX gets lots of good reviews, but I'm not sure of its efficiency.

    Take your amp to the store and let your ears make the decision.
     
  18. your a moderator here and you still dont know differences between a 410 and a 210? That scares me...
     
  19. if you get a hartke transporter your never going to want to own a hartke product again. Get the XL cab... It sounds better, better design, and it just looks a bit cooler too... You'd be better off with an Avatar 4x10 than a hartke transporter. Get the XL... And I don't know about the GK210. Probably better than the TP, but not as loud. And you dont add a 4x10 extension cab to a 150 watt 15 inch combo... Maybe a 210 would be better as an extension cab, but if you get a 410 you might as well buy a different head.