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3 Options for a Broken Bass: What Would You Do?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by jaywa, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. jaywa

    jaywa

    May 5, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    I have an Ibanez BTB400 series. Year unknown but it has the Ibanez (not Bartolini) pickups. I bought it off eBay about 3 1/2 years ago (I know... shoulda checked TB Classifieds first). After about a year of play the sweepable midrange pot crapped out. I am told by multiple sources that that is a proprietary Ibanez part that is virtually impossible to get... and after over 2 years of trying without success, I've had enough.

    The bass is unplayable in its current condition so I have been doing some research and these appear to be my options:

    1) Replace everything but the pickups with an all-new aftermarket system (e.g., an Aguilar preamp and pots package for which I was quoted $215 + installation)

    2) Replace only the faulty mid control using a fixed frequency boost/cut pot (similar to the current, stock bass and treble controls); this would run me the price of a pot ($5-10), + installation

    3) Invest nothing more and try to sell the bass as-is.

    If I go with option 1, I will essentially be spending as much to fix the bass as I spent on it to begin with... and while I like the bass, I'm not in love with it. I don't want to be that guy who puts $3,000 worth of rims and rubber on a 73 Pinto but it kind of feels like I'd be doing that here. Going with this approach would almost obligate me to keep the bass because I would never get that investment back out of it on resale. Is a BTB a good enough bass to warrant that kind of additional investment?

    Option 2 would make the bass playable again at a fraction of the cost of option 1 -- albeit without part of its original functionality -- and then I could either keep it or sell it (and put that money towards another bass... possibly a G&L or something else closer to the Fender "family tree"); the question there is, would I have more trouble selling it (or have to offer it at a deep discount) because the sweepable mid no longer exists?

    Option 3 really doesn't sit well with me but potentially could be the easiest way out if I could find a buyer and were willing to take a major loss on the sale. Basically pawn in it off on the next owner (with disclosure, of course) and let him/her decide how to fix it. The problem with that option is that I would wind up practically giving it away so at the end of the day I'd be out the bass and have very little money to put towards a replacement either.

    What would you do?
     
  2. sotua

    sotua

    Sep 20, 2004
    Somewhere in time
    Option 2. That costs you next to nothing, and leaves you with a playable and sellable bass. Option 1 is too expensive for the bass, and option 3, if currently is "unplayable", will sell for less than what you could sell the bass after option 2, even after taking into account the cost of the fixed pot.
     
  3. jaywa

    jaywa

    May 5, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    If it makes any difference... the bass in question is/was NOT my main player. That's a 78 Precision. I bought the BTB to be my backup and also give me some tonal options I couldn't get from my P.
     
  4. i have a btb405 thats probably similar to yours. have you tried just removing the preamp all together? just wire the pups straight to the output jack. the pups are passive, the preamp is active. i did this with mine and i enjoy the sound much better than with the ibanez preamp. the preamp IMO was a little lacking, esp in the highs. it sounded "fake" to me. i ripped it out and wired it up and now it sounds better.

    i have plans to make it a v/v/t/kill switch/front jack, eventually. mine isnt my main player either so im in no rush.

    if you must choose an option from above, #2 makes the most sense.
     
  5. BenWhoPlaysBass

    BenWhoPlaysBass

    Jun 7, 2013
    VA
    I'd go with option #2 like those guys said. #1 is unadvisable; I wouldn't put that much into it if you paid around that price to begin with. #3 is a "meh" kinda option because you'd really get a little o' nothing for a broken bass out of most people/shops.
     
  6. bassistjoe93

    bassistjoe93 Supporting Member

    Sep 14, 2011
    #2
     
  7. Thor

    Thor Gold Supporting Member In Memoriam

    2

    Cheap fix. Then put in a passive/ active switch.
     
  8. jaywa

    jaywa

    May 5, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    Thank you everyone.

    Option 2 it is. I'm gonna take it in to my local bass maintenance guru and discuss options with him that involve only replacing the midrange pot vs. a total swap-out of all the electronics. Go for the lowest cost solution that makes it playable again and then decide whether I like it enough to keep it or put it on the block.
     
  9. jaywa

    jaywa

    May 5, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    I think the pickups are already passive. Would kind of like to keep the active functionality if possible so I have an active counterpart to my P-Bass. As far as I can tell the preamp is still good, it's just the concentric midrange pot that has crapped out. But I'll know more after my guy opens it up.
     
  10. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Yet another reason that I will never buy anything made by Ibanez or the Hoshino company again.
     
  11. jaywa

    jaywa

    May 5, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    Agreed. I am REALLY not happy with how this has all played out. I'm just thankful that it (hopefully) will not be a more expensive lesson learned.
     
  12. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    I can't believe that over 25 years after I called the Hoshino company and was asked, "How did you get this number?" by the obnoxious a-hole who answered, then was told he'd send me a wiring diagram for my Destroyer and never did, that their CS hasn't improved even a little bit. But withholding proprietary parts like that is purely bush league.
     
  13. wait!

    I have a btb405 and the midrange shaft was broken off when I got it.

    I ordered a new one (I worked out the exact item id of the dual shaft pot in advance) from Long&McQuade in vancouver and it came - took like 6 weeks, but I have a brand new one now.

    You CAN get the new part. they ordered it from ibanez. it's not hard to find if you have a decent music store.

    edit: by the way, my store only charged my like $5 for the part.
     
  14. jaywa

    jaywa

    May 5, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    I ordered it through my local music store too, and nada. In fact the guy who ordered it for me isn't even there anymore and I don't have time or inclination to go through the maze again.

    I'm glad it worked out for you, but 2 years is long enough for me. I'm moving on.
     
  15. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    A huge company like Ibanez should have them at the ready. Even 6 weeks is ridiculous unless you just happened to catch them in the middle of a backorder.
     
  16. Ibanez is renown for being slow at delivering on parts like this. several weeks is typical for them.

    Just order it directly from Ibanez yourself. it's easy enough and worth the trouble - the vari-mid eq is one of the major selling points of your bass.
     
  17. jaywa

    jaywa

    May 5, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    UPDATE and FWIW:

    Just on a lark and as a last ditch effort I went onto the Ibanez Website and e-mailed them regarding availability and price of the part in question. Within 10 minutes one of their people had e-mailed me back saying they would be happy to help and could I please provide the serial # of my bass. So we'll see where this goes.
     
  18. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Dang it! They better not let me down with decent CS after this!

    :D
     
  19. jaywa

    jaywa

    May 5, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    Yeah I'm gonna feel pretty stupid if they send me out a part after I've been stressing on it for two years. Like, duh, why didnt I just go on their Website in the first place. But at least it will be playable / sellable.
     
  20. Yea it's worth the trouble either way!