410 with a 210

Many threads covering this. Give them a look-see.

Very basically, if they're the same ohms, they'll each receive the same watts. A 500 watt @ 4 ohm amp will send 250 of them to the 410 & 250 to the 210. The two 10s will be pushed twice as hard as the four 10s (or alternatively, the four 10s will only be pushed half as hard as the two 10s). The 210 will likely sound bad when you turn up to utilize the ability of the 410. And if you keep the volume lower so the 210 sounds good, then the 410 isn't breaking a sweat, so why even have the 210? You'd do just as well with the 410 only. Wouldn't have to schlep the 210. You could sell it & put bucks in your wallet.

Now if the 410 is 4 ohms, it would get 2/3 of the amp's watts & the 8 ohm 210 would receive 1/3. Each 10 driver would receive equal juice, making a "proper" modular 610. One caveat...the amp in this scenario must support a 2 ohm load because a 4 ohm cab & an 8 ohm cab produce a total 2.67 ohm load. An amp that only supports a 4 ohm minimum load (most ss amps, some all-valve amps) will fry at some point, sooner more likely than later.

 

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Perfectly explained!

 

Thanks a ton for answering this question that I didn't realize I had.

 

There you go then. And +3 for the record.

 

get a 8x10" and if not loud enough
Get 2 8x10"
sorted

 

Excuse my ignorance but, what do you mean with "push harder" (or "half as hard")?
The 410 has 4 x 100w drivers and the 210 has 2 x 200w drivers. So if the 210 drivers are designed to be pushed harder and viceversa with the 410 I don't see the problem.
This is really a question, not an argument against yours. Can you explain please?

 

Using a 500 watt amp as an example, 250 watts to a 210 is 125 watts per spkr, and 250 watts to a 410 is 62.5 watts per spkr.

 

So in the OPs situation, he is sending 100 W to each driver in the 210 and 50 W to each driver in the 410, right?
But since the drivers in the 210 are rated at 200 W and the drivers in the 410 are rated at 100 W (each) then all drivers in both cabs are at exactly half their "load capacity".
I still see no difference.

 

So, that explanation he gave is why you told me to get another 210 with my 210, right?

 

This is where I'm lost too. Peavey up there told me to run (2) 210s instead of a 210 and a 115 or even a 210 and 410. The latter of that makes sense now after that explanation. I'm still wondering about why 210 would be better paired with another 210 over a 410. If that makes any sense.

 

As long a you look at it as the 210 is the master and the 410 is just backup for it it would be fine. I personally would recommend another 410. Another 210 is cool if you don't like hauling 410s.

 

I hope I'm not straying too far from the OP topic. Cause I'm interested in this. Peavey up there told me to get another 210 and stack them vertically. Like I said, I hope this is in line with the OP. If not, I'm really sorry.

 

I have to apologize for this. The last line I messed up.

I meant I'm still wondering about why 210 would be better paired with another 210 over a 115. Not a 410.

 

There is nothing wrong with it. Another 210 would be more of what you know. Another 15 is a roll of the dice.

 

The vertical stacking thing is about creating equal distances to the greatest extent possible from each driver to the listeners ears. The less deviation in distance, the more likely the sound will arrive at the same time and reinforce rather than cancel each other. Google "line array" for reference. This is how modern sound reinforcement is done. The effects in a bass rig are perceptible. The degree to which it matters is up to you to decide. Obviously you can't do a vertical line with 4x10 cabs in any case.