45/50W bass head

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by justinien, Oct 25, 2019.

  1. justinien


    Oct 25, 2019
    hello everyone, i've got a question for you :
    are 45/50W bass heads enough for little gigs with a drummer, a guitarist (with a 22W Fender amp) and a keyboardist (with an unknown wattage lmao) so, we're playing little gigs and i have now a Fender Rumble 200 (1×15", 200W bass combo) but I want to "upgrade" with a more vintage sound (an all tube vintage sound to be precise) like Fender Bassman or even Fender Bassbreaker 45 Head (I know it's a guitar head but hey why not?)

    i just want your thoughts about it

  2. If the space is small &/or quiet and the drummer can lay off a little and your cab isn't garbage, then yes. It'll have pretty limited utility unless you have a sizable or efficient cab to pair with it, though, IME.
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  3. Roland GR 88

    Roland GR 88 Commercial User

    Sep 16, 2013
    Ontario Canada
    Retail store manager
    I use a 40w Traynor head with a 2x12 and it keeps up fine with 15-30w guitar amps and is more than enough for small to medium sized stages.
  4. justinien


    Oct 25, 2019
    well i think that I'll buy a Fender Rumble 115 or 210 (or 410 but hey I'm not thta rich lmao)
    we're playing little/medium sized gig so..

    thanks for your answer tho
  5. justinien


    Oct 25, 2019
    what's the brand of your cab? is it an Ampeg SVT-212AV?
  6. Iristone


    Jul 8, 2017
    Vintage Bassmen and Showmen can be very expensive nowadays. Have you checked out the new Ampegs? If you're not set on the fender tone, these are lighter and cheaper and the V-4b is 100 watt.
  7. iagtrplyr

    iagtrplyr Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2013
    Clinton, IA
    Promise not to make fun, but how about the VOX Mini Superbeetle bass rig for four Benjamins? It’s a 50-watt head that Premier Guitar said “surprisingly powerful” in a review a couple days ago. The dug the tone as well, plus you get a cab that might work for small gigs if miced. Yeah, it may not sound as serious as an all-tube head, but I love my NuTube combo because it’s got some tubey vibe to it, IMHO, and is a cool-looking piece of kit.

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  8. justinien


    Oct 25, 2019
    yes i've already looked on Reverb, Bassman, Showman and Bandmaster are like 1300$ the problem is that I only have 900$ (i'm in Europe so it's like 750/800€)
    and yes I've checked out the Ampeg Cabs but how expensive (but awesome) they're! like 1000€ just for the head (plus 400€ for a 1×15" cab)
    it's not in my budget (sadly) but yes Ampeg was my first go to
  9. justinien


    Oct 25, 2019
    haha they're cute well why not !
  10. Iristone


    Jul 8, 2017
    If you can live with only a preamp tube why not check out some Hartkes? Cheap, Fender tone stack, and 10 times the power. ;)
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  11. justinien


    Oct 25, 2019
    the problem is that I can't, it was in my mind but it's impossible :/
  12. justinien


    Oct 25, 2019
    oh and i forgot to say that I've already thinked about a diy bass head (because my Jazz Bass is diy, it's Homemade :) ) but it looks more dangerous because of the electricity, the wattage or whatever
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2019
  13. Kriegs


    Feb 14, 2018
  14. justinien


    Oct 25, 2019
    ah yes Ampeg Portaflex 20/50 !
  15. jbd5015


    Nov 23, 2009
    Boalsburg, PA
    If you are going to have low wattage for the head, you need efficient cab(s) to be heard over an acoustic drum set. Ive been runnin the PF50T since it came out (2015?) with various cabs and have had great success!

    Cabs ive used:
    Aguilar SL212
    Aguilar DB412
    Bergantino NV610

    If you do NOT have FoH support, i wouldnt recommend anything less than a solid 210 cabinet.
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  16. akrachanko

    akrachanko Supporting Member

    Mar 9, 2014
    Western Pennsylvania
    I believe the Ampeg Portaflex PF-50T would do the job. I played small-medium sized gigs with mine and a Barefaced Two 10s, and never had any issues with volume.

    A plus is that if you're at a larger gig with PA support, you can feed the post-power-tube line out to FOH and still get all that tubey goodness.
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  17. Wesley R

    Wesley R Gold Supporting Member

    I played many a gig with a B15S. That should be in the wattage range you are looking for.
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  18. Grapevine921

    Grapevine921 Supporting Member

    Feb 8, 2011
    Lafayette, Indiana
    I would look for a used V4b & 212av. I wouldn't be comfortable with a tube rig smaller than that. Plus it's future proof.
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  19. Raw N Low

    Raw N Low If I can't hear it, hopefully I'll feel it Supporting Member

    Jul 16, 2009
    Denver, Colorado
    I've gigged an Ampeg B25 with a single 12 and have done fine. I was competing with a 40 watt Fender 212 combo, 50 watt Marshall half stack, and a loud drummer.

    The key is having a sensitive and efficient cab.
  20. waveman


    Sep 25, 2008
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