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6x10 or 4x10 + 2x10

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Bigwig, Nov 14, 2004.

  1. Bigwig


    Dec 27, 2003
    heres my situation.
    ive got about 600 dollars canadian..
    ive got a heavily used yorkville 4x10 that i might get 200 - 250 for.
    by christmas..ill have made another 300 - 400 dollars, so thats around 1100 dollars.
    now i've decided a 4x10 just isnt powerful enough for me.
    so should i look for a used ampeg 6x10, or pickup a 4x10 and 2x10..
    and what companies should i really look for, i know GK, SWR and Ampeg are all top of the line, but i must admit that i've never really played on one.
    should i stick with yorkville.
    1100 dollars, what can i do with it?
  2. Whafrodamus


    Oct 29, 2003
    Andover, MA
    Id' go with the 410 and 210. That's what I'm going to be doing. A large 410 can be an overkill sometimes, and a 210 would be perfect for smaller shows. On the other hand, a 410 might not be enough, so throwing a 210 on there might give you the extra oomph you need.
  3. Lecollectif


    Mar 2, 2004

    I've played through the Ampeg 6x10 and quite liked it. It was borrowed from a metal band called At The Mercy Of Inspiration, so if you've ever seen/heard them, you'd know it's plenty loud.
  4. rusmannx


    Jul 16, 2001
    two cabs for portabliity.
    i might be doing the same thing (if i don't get a 115 for my 410).

    i'm buing from www.avatarspeakers.com. check out the neos.
  5. DubDubs


    Aug 23, 2004
    Los Angeles
    I agree. Sometimes you might only need a 2x10 for really small shows and at practice might not want to lug around a huge cab. And sometimes you might only need a 4x10 and you'll have the 2x10 to add on for bigger shows. With a 4x10 and a 2x10 you have the option of running a 2x10, 4x10 or a 6x10 it's a much more versitile setup and you could save money by keeping your current 4x10 and getting a really nice 2x10.
  6. jnightmare


    May 12, 2004
    Carson, CA
    i myself am going to be getting a rig of my own soon. and im looking to get a 4x10 and 2x10. i originally was thinking of a 6x10. but like they said having a 4x10 and 2x10 is more versatile. not only that its way easier to transport. plus why bring a heavy ol' 6x10 to practice when you can just cruise in and out more easily with just a 2x10. but of course its up to you ultimatly to choose. but i myself am going the way of the 4x10 and 2x10 route.
  7. basmeisje


    Jun 7, 2004
    I was thinking about the 4x10 and 2x10 option myself, but I a was wondering if there wouldn't be a disbalance with both cabs getting equal power? So the 10's in the 2x10 will get twice the power per speaker. If that is not a problem, I think it's the perfect option. So if anyone knows and have experience with this please...

  8. the dude

    the dude Supporting Member

    Sep 19, 2004
    Power distribution between a 210 and 410 should be fine - as long as both cabs have the same impedance (and are from the same manufacturer/line - or are equally efficient.)

    I say go for the 610hlf. Great cab. Don't think there is a 410/210 that will give you the bottom end and range of that cab.

    Plus you will never get to the gig and think, "Man, I wish I'd brought both cabs. It would sound so much better."
  9. IvanMike

    IvanMike Player Characters fear me... Supporting Member

    Nov 10, 2002
    Middletown CT, USA
    no problem at all.
    i used a 210 and 410 (both 8 ohms) for years with a 400 watt amp. Both cabinets got 200 watts, so the speakers in the 210 got twice the power as the ones in the 410. I never noticed a real difference. The sensitivity of the 210 was 103 dB, and the 410 was 105 dB, so that helped. I personally would use a 210 and 410 setup.

    BigWig, how many watts are you putting into that 410? Is it possible that that might be your problem? I recall that using my 410 with the aforementioned 400 watt head gave me about 260 watts into the 8 ohm 410. That wasn't always loud enough. Using my current poweramp that can put 400 - 1300 watts into an 8 ohm load i can't think of too many gigs where i'd need more than a 4x10!!!
  10. Frank Martin

    Frank Martin Bitten by the luthiery bug...

    Oct 8, 2001
    Budapest, Hungary, EU
    I dont know - I'd rather go for a 210 + 115 setup or a 40 and 115 - or a 210 and 112, etc.
    A larger driver might be useful for some more booty and lo-range. Most 10s have high roll-off freqs.
  11. Bigwig


    Dec 27, 2003
    i have to admit, im only 16, and when i decided to buy my own rig i dropped 850 dollars on a new yorkville xs400h and for a week straight i religiously searched through the classifieds, to find the cheapest 4x10.
    i got an old, peice of crap yorkville 4x10 for 150 canadian (just over a hundred dollars US)..and not only is it in ****ty shape, but the HEAVIEST piece of crap ive ever lifted in my life. id say my guitarists 6x12 3/4s stack (including head) is ligther than this.
    i was wondering if i got a new 4x10, at 4 ohms instead of this 8ohm one, would i be able to push all 400 watts into this cab, and if so, would that considerably help with volume?
    if not, i still want a new 4x10, something i can be proud of.
    id say i can get atleast 200 - 250 for this cab, and i am then 300 - 400 bucks away from a nice 4x10 cab..in good conition that sounds good.

    600 bucks canadian should get me a decent 4x10 shouldnt it?

    then within a couple pay checks if i looked hardenough i could probably find a matching 2 x 10.
    but ya..its pretty much about volume right now. and a decent rig to do my new bass some justice
  12. IvanMike

    IvanMike Player Characters fear me... Supporting Member

    Nov 10, 2002
    Middletown CT, USA
    well, problem is, if you get a 4 ohm 4x10 that's all you can use with your head unless it can safely power a 2 ohm load. I think that if you add a 210 or 1x15 or any other 8 ohm cabinet to the 4x10 you are using now you will notice an appreciable increase in volume due to the additional watts and speakers.
  13. Bigwig


    Dec 27, 2003
    i never thought about that .. (the ohms)
    well i really want a new cab.
    i guess ill just pick up a nice 8ohm 410 and in the next couple months get a 2x10 8ohm.
    thanks for clearing that up.