6x10 or 4x10 + 2x10

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Bigwig, Nov 14, 2004.

  1. Bigwig


    Dec 27, 2003
    heres my situation.
    ive got about 600 dollars canadian..
    ive got a heavily used yorkville 4x10 that i might get 200 - 250 for.
    by christmas..ill have made another 300 - 400 dollars, so thats around 1100 dollars.
    now i've decided a 4x10 just isnt powerful enough for me.
    so should i look for a used ampeg 6x10, or pickup a 4x10 and 2x10..
    and what companies should i really look for, i know GK, SWR and Ampeg are all top of the line, but i must admit that i've never really played on one.
    should i stick with yorkville.
    1100 dollars, what can i do with it?
  2. Whafrodamus


    Oct 29, 2003
    Andover, MA
    Id' go with the 410 and 210. That's what I'm going to be doing. A large 410 can be an overkill sometimes, and a 210 would be perfect for smaller shows. On the other hand, a 410 might not be enough, so throwing a 210 on there might give you the extra oomph you need.
  3. Lecollectif


    Mar 2, 2004

    I've played through the Ampeg 6x10 and quite liked it. It was borrowed from a metal band called At The Mercy Of Inspiration, so if you've ever seen/heard them, you'd know it's plenty loud.
  4. rusmannx


    Jul 16, 2001
    two cabs for portabliity.
    i might be doing the same thing (if i don't get a 115 for my 410).

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  5. DubDubs


    Aug 23, 2004
    Los Angeles
    I agree. Sometimes you might only need a 2x10 for really small shows and at practice might not want to lug around a huge cab. And sometimes you might only need a 4x10 and you'll have the 2x10 to add on for bigger shows. With a 4x10 and a 2x10 you have the option of running a 2x10, 4x10 or a 6x10 it's a much more versitile setup and you could save money by keeping your current 4x10 and getting a really nice 2x10.
  6. jnightmare


    May 12, 2004
    Carson, CA
    i myself am going to be getting a rig of my own soon. and im looking to get a 4x10 and 2x10. i originally was thinking of a 6x10. but like they said having a 4x10 and 2x10 is more versatile. not only that its way easier to transport. plus why bring a heavy ol' 6x10 to practice when you can just cruise in and out more easily with just a 2x10. but of course its up to you ultimatly to choose. but i myself am going the way of the 4x10 and 2x10 route.
  7. basmeisje


    Jun 7, 2004
    I was thinking about the 4x10 and 2x10 option myself, but I a was wondering if there wouldn't be a disbalance with both cabs getting equal power? So the 10's in the 2x10 will get twice the power per speaker. If that is not a problem, I think it's the perfect option. So if anyone knows and have experience with this please...

  8. the dude

    the dude Supporting Member

    Sep 19, 2004
    Power distribution between a 210 and 410 should be fine - as long as both cabs have the same impedance (and are from the same manufacturer/line - or are equally efficient.)

    I say go for the 610hlf. Great cab. Don't think there is a 410/210 that will give you the bottom end and range of that cab.

    Plus you will never get to the gig and think, "Man, I wish I'd brought both cabs. It would sound so much better."
  9. IvanMike

    IvanMike Player Characters fear me... Staff Member Supporting Member

    Nov 10, 2002
    Middletown CT, USA
    no problem at all.
    i used a 210 and 410 (both 8 ohms) for years with a 400 watt amp. Both cabinets got 200 watts, so the speakers in the 210 got twice the power as the ones in the 410. I never noticed a real difference. The sensitivity of the 210 was 103 dB, and the 410 was 105 dB, so that helped. I personally would use a 210 and 410 setup.

    BigWig, how many watts are you putting into that 410? Is it possible that that might be your problem? I recall that using my 410 with the aforementioned 400 watt head gave me about 260 watts into the 8 ohm 410. That wasn't always loud enough. Using my current poweramp that can put 400 - 1300 watts into an 8 ohm load i can't think of too many gigs where i'd need more than a 4x10!!!
  10. Frank Martin

    Frank Martin Bitten by the luthiery bug...

    Oct 8, 2001
    Budapest, Hungary, EU
    I dont know - I'd rather go for a 210 + 115 setup or a 40 and 115 - or a 210 and 112, etc.
    A larger driver might be useful for some more booty and lo-range. Most 10s have high roll-off freqs.
  11. Bigwig


    Dec 27, 2003
    i have to admit, im only 16, and when i decided to buy my own rig i dropped 850 dollars on a new yorkville xs400h and for a week straight i religiously searched through the classifieds, to find the cheapest 4x10.
    i got an old, peice of crap yorkville 4x10 for 150 canadian (just over a hundred dollars US)..and not only is it in ****ty shape, but the HEAVIEST piece of crap ive ever lifted in my life. id say my guitarists 6x12 3/4s stack (including head) is ligther than this.
    i was wondering if i got a new 4x10, at 4 ohms instead of this 8ohm one, would i be able to push all 400 watts into this cab, and if so, would that considerably help with volume?
    if not, i still want a new 4x10, something i can be proud of.
    id say i can get atleast 200 - 250 for this cab, and i am then 300 - 400 bucks away from a nice 4x10 cab..in good conition that sounds good.

    600 bucks canadian should get me a decent 4x10 shouldnt it?

    then within a couple pay checks if i looked hardenough i could probably find a matching 2 x 10.
    but ya..its pretty much about volume right now. and a decent rig to do my new bass some justice
  12. IvanMike

    IvanMike Player Characters fear me... Staff Member Supporting Member

    Nov 10, 2002
    Middletown CT, USA
    well, problem is, if you get a 4 ohm 4x10 that's all you can use with your head unless it can safely power a 2 ohm load. I think that if you add a 210 or 1x15 or any other 8 ohm cabinet to the 4x10 you are using now you will notice an appreciable increase in volume due to the additional watts and speakers.
  13. Bigwig


    Dec 27, 2003
    i never thought about that .. (the ohms)
    well i really want a new cab.
    i guess ill just pick up a nice 8ohm 410 and in the next couple months get a 2x10 8ohm.
    thanks for clearing that up.