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7/8 + 4/4 or 15/8?

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by Eric Cioe, May 2, 2002.

  1. 7/8 + 4/4

    9 vote(s)
  2. 15/8

    7 vote(s)
  3. i like carrots

    5 vote(s)
  1. Eric Cioe

    Eric Cioe

    Jun 4, 2001
    Missoula, MT
    if there was a section that went back and forth between 7/8 and 4/4....

    would you write it 7/8 and then 4/4 or 15/8? i think it would be easier to read 15/8 than changing time sigs every other measure.

    is there any web site on how to write stuff?
  2. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    it depends on the pulse and accents, eric. it might work out best to just write it 5/8, and subdivide the measures.

    7/8 has a specific feel to it. if the part matches that feel then that's what you use. if not, further subdivisions might be more prudent.

    i'd rather count simple short measures that change than long measures that stay the same.
  3. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999
    IMO & FME-
    It's easier for me to think "a bar of 4 + a bar of 7/8".
    Basically, one bar = "4", the other = "4" MINUS an 1/8th note.
    That's easier for me 'cause, mainly, I can't count past 6.

    Led Zep's "The Ocean"(main riff) has a bar of 4/4 + a bar of 7/8, right? I'd be damned if I'd wanna count that out to 15! ;)
  4. frederic b. hodshon

    frederic b. hodshon

    May 10, 2000
    Redmond, WA
    Amazon Product Designer
    i write odd meters quite often.

    communicating to my band is easier when i break it down into groups of 2's and 3's.

    or 3's and 4's.

    7/8 = 1 2 3, 1 2, 1 2...

    5/8 = 1 2 3, 1 2...

    especially if it accented that way.


  5. beermonkey


    Sep 26, 2001
    Seattle, WA
    What the multi-string messiah said... It's all about the pulse and feel of the tune. Sometimes it makes sense to write something out as a measure of 7/16 and a measure of 9/16 instead of just one measure of 4/4.
  6. Eric Cioe

    Eric Cioe

    Jun 4, 2001
    Missoula, MT
    its like this

    7/8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 4/4 1 2 3 4 5 (6 7 8)

    BOLD = accent
    ()= rest

    how would i do that? what would fit this situation?
  7. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    in this case i'd say 7/8 // 4/4 is the way to go.
  8. beermonkey


    Sep 26, 2001
    Seattle, WA
  9. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    then again, you could do 15 measures of 1/8 :D :rolleyes:
  10. You know what's annoying? Icelandic choir music. Some of it keeps switching between two or even three time sigs every couple of bars.

    One bar 2/4, the next 4/4 and the one after that is 3/4. Never regularily.

    Go with the changing time sigs, it must be difficult to count 15 8 notes.
  11. thrash_jazz


    Jan 11, 2002
    Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    Artist: JAF Basses, Circle K Strings
    I'd probably WRITE it as 15/8, but COUNT it as 7/8 + 4/4.
  12. Player


    Dec 27, 1999
    USA Cincinnati, OH
    I had a similar thing, but as a 4 bar phrase. I was toying with 4/4, 7/8, 4/4, 7/8.. & 15/16, 15/16 , but it turned out to be 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 3/4
  13. lneal


    Apr 12, 2002
    Lee County, Alabama
    I voted 15/8 because it will lull the listener into a false sense of security. Then when they think they've got it-- all of a sudden...hey, what happened! I wrote a song that changes from 7/8 to 8/8 to 15/8 and back again. That one keeps ya guessing. I haven't recorded it yet but hopefully will in the near future.
  14. Jeff Moote

    Jeff Moote Supporting Member

    Oct 11, 2001
    Beamsville, ON, Canada
    My school music department played a piece like that. "The Joy Of Spring", and that is one sweet song. If anyone wants the composer I'll get it.

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