# 7/8 + 4/4 or 15/8?

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by Eric Cioe, May 2, 2002.

## 7/8 +4/4 or 15/8?

9 vote(s)
42.9%

7 vote(s)
33.3%

5 vote(s)
23.8%
1. ### Eric Cioe

Jun 4, 2001
Missoula, MT
if there was a section that went back and forth between 7/8 and 4/4....

would you write it 7/8 and then 4/4 or 15/8? i think it would be easier to read 15/8 than changing time sigs every other measure.

is there any web site on how to write stuff?

2. ### john turnerYou don't want to do that. Trust me.Staff Member

Mar 14, 2000
atlanta ga
it depends on the pulse and accents, eric. it might work out best to just write it 5/8, and subdivide the measures.

7/8 has a specific feel to it. if the part matches that feel then that's what you use. if not, further subdivisions might be more prudent.

i'd rather count simple short measures that change than long measures that stay the same.

3. ### JimK

Dec 12, 1999
IMO & FME-
It's easier for me to think "a bar of 4 + a bar of 7/8".
Basically, one bar = "4", the other = "4" MINUS an 1/8th note.
That's easier for me 'cause, mainly, I can't count past 6.

Led Zep's "The Ocean"(main riff) has a bar of 4/4 + a bar of 7/8, right? I'd be damned if I'd wanna count that out to 15!

4. ### frederic b. hodshonSupporting Member

May 10, 2000
Redmond, WA
Microsoft Product Designer
i write odd meters quite often.

communicating to my band is easier when i break it down into groups of 2's and 3's.

or 3's and 4's.

7/8 = 1 2 3, 1 2, 1 2...

5/8 = 1 2 3, 1 2...

especially if it accented that way.

depends.

fred

5. ### beermonkey

Sep 26, 2001
Seattle, WA
What the multi-string messiah said... It's all about the pulse and feel of the tune. Sometimes it makes sense to write something out as a measure of 7/16 and a measure of 9/16 instead of just one measure of 4/4.

6. ### Eric Cioe

Jun 4, 2001
Missoula, MT
its like this

7/8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 4/4 1 2 3 4 5 (6 7 8)

BOLD = accent
()= rest

how would i do that? what would fit this situation?

7. ### john turnerYou don't want to do that. Trust me.Staff Member

Mar 14, 2000
atlanta ga
in this case i'd say 7/8 // 4/4 is the way to go.

Sep 26, 2001
Seattle, WA
Yep.

9. ### john turnerYou don't want to do that. Trust me.Staff Member

Mar 14, 2000
atlanta ga
then again, you could do 15 measures of 1/8

10. ### Gunnar ÞórGuest

Sep 23, 2001
Hafnarfjordur, Iceland
You know what's annoying? Icelandic choir music. Some of it keeps switching between two or even three time sigs every couple of bars.

One bar 2/4, the next 4/4 and the one after that is 3/4. Never regularily.

Go with the changing time sigs, it must be difficult to count 15 8 notes.

11. ### thrash_jazz

Jan 11, 2002
Artist: JAF Basses, Circle K Strings
I'd probably WRITE it as 15/8, but COUNT it as 7/8 + 4/4.

12. ### Player

Dec 27, 1999
USA Cincinnati, OH
I had a similar thing, but as a 4 bar phrase. I was toying with 4/4, 7/8, 4/4, 7/8.. & 15/16, 15/16 , but it turned out to be 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 3/4

13. ### lneal

Apr 12, 2002
Lee County, Alabama
I voted 15/8 because it will lull the listener into a false sense of security. Then when they think they've got it-- all of a sudden...hey, what happened! I wrote a song that changes from 7/8 to 8/8 to 15/8 and back again. That one keeps ya guessing. I haven't recorded it yet but hopefully will in the near future.

Oct 11, 2001