700rb vs 700rb ll

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by chasfur, Jul 26, 2009.

  1. chasfur


    Feb 14, 2009
    Elkhart , Indiana
    can anyone tell me the changes when this amp was upgraded or revised.are there any significant issues i should beware of or pros n cons between the 2. see im shopping for my first head im an amuture at best whos working up to his first gig..im getting alil Tim the tool man growl for power. i have a nice ampeg 210c thats powerful. im just gettin power hungry gggggrrrr!!!!!! thanks chas
  2. georgestrings

    georgestrings Inactive

    Nov 5, 2005
    AFAIK, the II series has an updated Preamp section, and more power output... I have both the 700rb-II and the Genz-Benz GBE 600, and prefer the 700rb-II for my modern rock/metal gig - it's that good...

    A used 700rb-II for $350-$400 has got to be one of the best bang for the buck amps around - and ALOT louder than it's 480 watt rating would lead one to believe...

    - georgestrings
  3. Go for the 2001RB-you won't have to ever upgrade and you will have power to boot. There aren't many on the used market because they are top of the line. The 700RB will only be adequate until your next need to upgrade. Even the 1001RB would be an awesome choice. I have played GK for 25 years.
  4. rptrsn2


    Feb 21, 2008
    Northeast Missouri
    Endorsing Artist: Aurora Strings
    The 700rbII has plenty of power to play about anywhere.You definitly don,t want to buy more thean you need with w GK. Used a 1001 at a gig and could never crank it enuff to get the sound I love out it. They are designed to sound the best when they "hit the rails".
  5. Well hitting the rails gives that awesome G-K growl but they sound amazing without hitting the growl range as well.
  6. georgestrings

    georgestrings Inactive

    Nov 5, 2005

    With a good cab/cabs, the 700rb-II is more than enough for any realistic gigging needs - I don't foresee any need to "upgrade" mine... I play in a loud modern rock/metal band, and have never needed to reach half volume out of my 700rb-II - why would I need an "upgrade", then???

    Given the OP, don't you think it's a bit rediculous to suggest the 2001rb??? - after all, his post indicates he'd be MUCH better off buying a good cab along with a 700rb-II or 1001rb-II, than he would spending all that money on a 2001...

    FWIW, I've played a few 1001rb-IIs, and actually prefer the 700rb-II, as it sounds warmer to my ears, and has plenty more power than I'll ever need...

    - georgestrings
  7. chasfur


    Feb 14, 2009
    Elkhart , Indiana
    i really appreciate all this advice you guys have been very informative,but actually truth known i have an oportunity to buy the 700 rb. i have heard ravs about the 700rbll which prompted me to ask what changes came with the 2nd generation. at any rate my choices have clearly been one of these two heads. i am a gk fan after pluging into the neo 1001/212 at wood wind brasswind showroom. i heard angels flap their wings n bang their heads. knowing i could not afford this 1200 dollar piece of heaven i am seeking the cheapest yet most awesome sounding rig i can get from gk
  8. Saetia

    Saetia Supporting Member

    Mar 27, 2003
    I use a GK 700rb II through an SWR Henry the 8x8 and it's awesome.

    I send all 480 watts to the Henry and it gets loud. I've used this set up without PA support against two full stacks powered by Marshall and Peavey tube heads and a heavy drummer.

    They are definitely powerful amps, and when you hit the rails it's growl city!

    I also like the 700rb II more than the 1001rb II as I've never had the chance to hit the rails properly with the 1001rb II and I play loooud music. The 700rb II is just a great amp all around.

  9. The 700rb is a killer amp and would have plenty of power. I've had a 700rbII, 1001rbII and now an 800rb which is perfect for my sound. The higher powered gk stuff is VERY VERY LOUD in comparison to most other amps with similar ratings. I run my 800rb thru an ampeg 8-10 and my 4003 rick and it easily keeps up with two hiwatt half stacks.
  10. Nedmundo

    Nedmundo Supporting Member

    Jan 7, 2005
    I have both 700RB and 700RB-II. Georgestrings is correct about the revised preamp in Mk. II. The EQ is voiced differently, and the Mk. II sounds deeper and warmer. It's also a huge power increase, much more than the specs would indicate.

    But the 700RB is an excellent amp. I played many shows with mine, and I was always happy with the power and tone. Get an efficient 4x10, like the SWR Goliath III, and you'll have a very solid rig.
  11. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    +1 I totally agree. :cool: