70s Jazz Neck Profiles

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by brushfirewolf, Jul 1, 2020.

  1. brushfirewolf

    brushfirewolf

    Nov 12, 2016
    Maryland
    I want to add a jazz to the collection as I've sold all of mine off. Once I do this I'll have the trio I've always wanted with the Stingray, P, and J.

    Problem is neck profiles. I hate chunky necks. I'm talking about the ones that feel like gripping the middle to lower part of a baseball bat. I much prefer more thin flat necks (think Ibanez, etc.) and I'll also add that I'm not willing to take my neck off to adjust the truss rod so that rules out any of the 60s models.

    Currently considering Vintera 70s, American Original 70s, and the American Pro. Can you guys comment on the feel of the neck on these 70s models? I LOVE binding and blocks and I don't currently own any so I'm heavily leaning towards the 70s but just hoping I'm not going to be turned off by the neck. I can't unfortunately try any in person so I'll be ordering online.

    Thanks.
     
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  2. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    The main mechanical difference between J and P is Js have thinner necks. On my wall my Rays and Sabres basically have the same neck profile as my '70's P basses with my Jazz being slimmer and narrower.
     
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  3. DigitalMan

    DigitalMan Bring Back Edit/Delete

    Nov 30, 2011
    Bay Area, CA
    If you have a P, then any J will be fine. Modern J and 70's J all have thinner necks.

    If you like the blocks and binding a US Geddy Lee is worth considering as well. Great neck IMO.
     
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  4. brushfirewolf

    brushfirewolf

    Nov 12, 2016
    Maryland
    To be clear I'm talking width(girth?) front to back. Not width across the fretboard/nut width. I returned a 60s Jazz once because the radius just felt weird to me.
     
  5. DigitalMan

    DigitalMan Bring Back Edit/Delete

    Nov 30, 2011
    Bay Area, CA
    If you can find a used CIJ Geddy those have the thinnest front to back necks of any Jazz I’ve ever played. They’re in Ibanez territory that way.
     
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  6. brushfirewolf

    brushfirewolf

    Nov 12, 2016
    Maryland
    Yeah I've heard that bout the Geddys. I should have mentioned I'm only looking to buy new.
     
  7. brushfirewolf

    brushfirewolf

    Nov 12, 2016
    Maryland
    Seems like the radius on these is gonna have that rounder, chunkier feel to it. Not what I'm looking for.

    Guess I'll just keep looking. At this point I'm tempted to just get a MIM player. Briefly had one a while back and the neck was nice.
     
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  8. Jazz4Me

    Jazz4Me

    Jan 21, 2018
    Central Illinois
    Another one to consider is a Squier Classic vibe 70's. As a lover of higher end instruments, I almost hate to admit this, but I kinda like the Squier more than the MIM Fenders (For reference, I play an American Vintage RI 62 jazz and an American Elite jazz). The Squier necks felt closer to a modern profile (i.e. not as much pronounced depth as the American Original's neck), it has the modern fretboard radius, and the blocks.
     
  9. brushfirewolf

    brushfirewolf

    Nov 12, 2016
    Maryland
    True. I hear ya. My favorite neck of all my basses is still to this day a '96 squier P bass. Super thin and flat. Straight as an arrow and allows me to get the action down to below 1.5mm. Gonna be real sad when the frets start to go on that one.
     
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  10. Old Fart

    Old Fart

    Mar 11, 2011
    To me, all Jazz necks seem petite. I currently have a '75 AVRI Jazz. Until recently, I also had a Squier. The neck on the Squier was more petite than the neck on the'75 AVRI. Their nut widths were the same of course, so the difference would be the thickness front-to-back. So yeah....the AVRI neck is more substantial....if we can use that term to describe a bass guitar neck which resembles a garden hose in girth. I exaggerated just now, I know.
     
  11. brushfirewolf

    brushfirewolf

    Nov 12, 2016
    Maryland
    I think it's the combination of the thinness[nut width] of the jazz neck and the slightly chunkier (front to back) of the 60s and 70s profile that I just don't care for.
     
  12. darwin-bass

    darwin-bass

    Mar 29, 2013
    Salem OR
    I've learned what neck dimensions I prefer. For nut width I prefer 1.5". Neck profile thickness 0.82" suits me great. Armed with this I can shop of basses with good knowledge.

    My 34" scale Warmoth neck is 1.5" wide, 0.87" thick. It feels thick & chunky but I'm used to it and really enjoy it. Note that Warmoth claims to have based their profile on actual Fender necks.

    Both of my 32" scale necks are 1.5" wide an 0.82" thick.

    The neck on my old G&L LB100 was great. 1.5" wide and 0.82" thick.

    The Geddy Lee I had was a very thin profile. Probably 0.79" or so thick? I didn't like it.
     
  13. brushfirewolf

    brushfirewolf

    Nov 12, 2016
    Maryland
    My only experience with those vintage necks is the 60s jazz I sold because I just didn't like the neck. Not sure if it was the profile or radius or just shape in general. I know the player neck felt good to me but I was hoping to do a little better. I may look at the american performer series as well.
     
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  14. 707GK

    707GK

    Jun 13, 2013
    California
    Of those listed, the Pro is the thinnest front to back and all 3 have similar profiles. I’ve played all 3 and I prefer the pro, but the other 2 are very nice as well.
     
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  15. DJ Bebop

    DJ Bebop Suspended

    Jan 11, 2003
    Pacific Wonderland
    Most vintage Fender necks have a 7 1/4 in. radius. Fender modern necks have a 9 1/2 in. radius starting in the 80s, unless it's trying to be vintage then, it's back to the 7 1/4
     
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  16. packhowitzer

    packhowitzer 155mm of pure destruction

    Apr 20, 2011
    Atlanta
    I can confirm- I have a 2007 CIJ Geddy and it's got an unbelievably thin neck in all dimensions (front to back and side to side). I was actually able to compare it to an MIM Geddy and the MIM was noticeably bigger. However, between the two, I think I preferred the feel of the MIM. But I love my CIJ Geddy to pieces. Last Jazz I'll ever need.
     
  17. CallMeAl

    CallMeAl

    Dec 2, 2016
    Ithaca Ny
    Here are some measurements that might help:
    Neck profile measurements
    I know Ibanez puts neck thickness on the website, would be nice is fender did that...

    I came up on an SR bass, and my fender standard jazz (modern c) is a little bit thicker but feels very nice to me; different but still “familiar.” Similar to the Player and Squier CV necks out now. Haven’t tried a Vintera but read the “70s C” is a little deeper, almost a U shape. I’d be surprised if that does it for you. I think “modern C” is what you’re looking for.

    EDIT I see the AO is a U, which i haven’t tried. But I’ve played the Am Pros, both Ps and Js, and they reminded me of the Player necks, just more TLC on the finishing. One of very few P necks I could see myself owning. Out of your list, my money is on the Am Pro.
     
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  18. Jackcrow

    Jackcrow Supporting Member

    Jul 10, 2017
    North Dakota
    I had an American Original 70s Jazz and would not consider it thin at all. Pretty chunky D shape with a thickness just over 0.9” at the first fret. The whole “Jazz necks are always slimmer than Precision necks” doesn’t apply a lot of the time when you are talking about front to back neck thickness. There are plenty of Precisions that have slim necks.

    If you are looking for a Jazz with a slim neck I would look for:

    CIJ Geddy Lee Sig
    MIM Geddy Lee Sig
    American Performer Jazz

    The 60s Jazz profiles seem to be slimmer at the first fret but are a bit thicker at the 12th.

    Pretty sure every one of these I’ve seen have been under 0.8” at the first fret.
     
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  19. brushfirewolf

    brushfirewolf

    Nov 12, 2016
    Maryland
    Thanks. I’m definitely looking at the performer now but unsure about the electronics.

    You said there’s plenty of p necks that are slim. Assuming you mean front to back thickness, I’d be really curious to know which ones. I love my 90s squier p neck because of how think and flat it is and have been looking for something similar in an American or mim fender ever since.
     
  20. DJ Bebop

    DJ Bebop Suspended

    Jan 11, 2003
    Pacific Wonderland
    My 62 P bass is thin front to back but, nut width is wide. It is my favorite neck shape and feel.
     
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