'77 pre EB Stingray

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Spaldo, Jul 29, 2009.

  1. Hey chaps

    a '77 musicman stingray has just come into my possession, and frankly, it's gonna need some work.

    can anyone help with info on these, or at least point me in the right direction?

    *what kind of frets came with the early models? the ones on this axe (apart from needing replacing) are narrow...standard or not?

    *this one has the MM logo under the bridge saddles, not on the tail of the bridge...

    *the pickup rout is not shaped like the pickup...there is a space above the top screws, and the bottom space has 2 angles which taper to the bottom screw...

    *the black paint is flaking off, revealing a violet/brown finish underneath, which i know i've seen on several 70's Jazz/P-basses. anyone know what this finish is called?

    *the treble and bass controls are boost only.....correct?

    *the foam mutes are missing...can these be replaced or should i get out the hobby knife and hot glue?

    *what kind of tool is used to adjust the neck angle?

    any help is appreciated

    thanks

    andrew
     
  2. mikeswals

    mikeswals Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    Medium sized frets, some really early ones had the small vintage style, but not many.

    76 to early 78 didn't have the logo on the tail piece. The switch happened in late 78. The serials were on the neck plate from 76 to early 78, and moved to the bridge under the saddles in late 78.

    You're right, the pickup cavity is not shaped like the pickup. The cavity changed to be like the pickup around 1982.

    Yes the 2-band eq is boost only.

    The foam pads can be replaced. You can find stick on foam material, or you can glue on weatherstrip foam, or some folks have used old mouse pads and glued them on.
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    You use and allen wrench to adjust the neck tilt. First you have to loosen the strings, and loosen the 3 neck bolts. It's a trial and error thing until you get it where you like.

    If the original brown finish is transparent, then it was called Walnut Stain.

    For more info check out: www.musicmanbass.org
    Gav built a wonderful website.
     
  3. I don't see no bass.
    :D

    Oh and... flaking paint is one of the best things about vintage basses. Gives you something to do while your guitarist is still trying to tune up. Better than bubble wrap.
     
  4. thanks Caca, i'll check out Gav's website

    about to dismantle the axe....wish me luck!
     
  5. SanDiegoHarry

    SanDiegoHarry Inactive Supporting Member

    Aug 11, 2008
    San Diego, CA
    What's the saying around here...?

    No pix, no bass...?
     
  6. Rano Bass

    Rano Bass

    Sep 9, 2006
    Tijuana Mex.
    +1
    That site is great!
     
  7. 'tis!

    been on it a few times today, cheers

    i guess i better upload some photos, a few of you lads seem to think i have an 'imaginary' bass :D
     
  8. ...and i suddenly find myself obsessed with Bernard Edwards and Louis Johnson....can't imagine why...
     
  9. jaywa

    jaywa

    May 5, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    Just stumbled on to that site yesterday myself. Agreed, it's an amazing storehouse of knowledge. And about a zillion cool pics as well.
     
  10. jaywa

    jaywa

    May 5, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    I think we're all intrigued to see just how much work it needs. One doesn't see StingRays in truly "bad" condition very often.
     
  11. Rodent

    Rodent A Killer Pickup Line™ Commercial User

    Dec 20, 2004
    Upper Left Corner (Seattle)
    Player-Builder-Founder: Honey Badger Pickups & Regenerate Guitar Works
    let this '77 PreEB SR serve as a placeholder to pacify all y'all until the OP gets their images uploaded

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    77StingRay-Headstock.jpg

    all the best,

    R
     
  12. smcd

    smcd

    Jun 28, 2009
    Boston, MA
    That is very bizarre. Did a previous owner go at that with a razor blade?
     
  13. Rodent

    Rodent A Killer Pickup Line™ Commercial User

    Dec 20, 2004
    Upper Left Corner (Seattle)
    Player-Builder-Founder: Honey Badger Pickups & Regenerate Guitar Works
    nope ... the finish is just a victim of "hot car to air conditioned space" syndrome. I've seen this kind of finish checking on old Fenders as well

    all the best,

    R
     
  14. jaywa

    jaywa

    May 5, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    Yep. My black 78 P-Bass has hairline cracks the whole width of the body, front and back. And the paint is starting to come off in little chunks (though nowhere to the degree of that StingRay shown here). Actually that's about the worst I've ever seen any StingRay finish age... by and large I believe the finishes on StingRays of that vintage have held up much, much better than Fender basses of the same timeframe under equivalent usage conditions and amount of play.
     
  15. smcd

    smcd

    Jun 28, 2009
    Boston, MA
    Definitely. The finish on pre-EB Stingrays is much more rugged than Fenders of the same era.
     
  16. mikeswals

    mikeswals Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    I'll see you one weather checked sunburst StingRay, with a minty sunburst StingRay. And for good measure will raise you with my main player.... :D

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  17. aww, heck stop it already! i'm overcome with green :eyebrow:

    ok, here's some shots for you. i don't have a photobucket account at he mo', but here's a general idea. the first shot is the '77 'ray hanging with my modded '77 Ibanez

    the others speak for themselves really.

    both axes are going into the shop 2nite for a refret. sad but necessary. the Ibanez ones are beyond dead and the 'ray is pretty much the same.
     
  18. i'm real good at this :rolleyes:

    photos as pre previous post

    :hyper:
     

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  20. LCW

    LCW Inactive

    Mar 2, 2009
    OREGON!
    Is that finish original?