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8" speaker suggestion for a hog 30

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by mpdd, Apr 1, 2013.


  1. mpdd

    mpdd neoconceptualist

    Mar 24, 2010
    LA
    think i fried my hog 30 speaker testing my l2k in active mode when i brought it home, do you guys have any suggestions

    getting distortion on the e string and low on the a, a lot with the l2k and sb-2, not as much with the jazz

    (been using the hog 30 more, because it's more quaint in my house than the mesa/orange rig)
     
  2. Woodstockz

    Woodstockz

    Sep 23, 2011
    San Diego, Ca
    40Hz reviewed some 8" speakers here:

    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/ampeg-ba-108-coffeeshop-micro-rig-915633/index14.html
     
  3. mpdd

    mpdd neoconceptualist

    Mar 24, 2010
    LA
    thanks, i'm trying to justify replacing the speaker in an amp i got on sale for 95 bucks
     
  4. tabdog

    tabdog

    Feb 9, 2011
    I don't think a hi-fi speaker is going to
    do anything but waste your money.
    Even if it is just $10 and shipping.

    Here's a review,

    ok for the money but dont expect miracles I bought these for a bass cabinet , they fart out and dont handle the freq range they boast but for the money hey I cant afford eminence they seem to be built well though. I dont think I would use these for pro audio cabs

    Tabdog
     
  5. 5 Wire

    5 Wire

    Feb 1, 2013
    NorCal
    When I cannibalized my Line6 I dropped the 10 in my Hog. Sounds great.

    100_0966_zps40373299.
     
  6. mpdd

    mpdd neoconceptualist

    Mar 24, 2010
    LA
    thanks guys, the only one i've found thus far is a bugera on ebay, but i'm going to check some places in the desert this weekend too
     
  7. Ya, I know they are not Eminence or B&C drivers, but for a (probably optimistic) 30w amp never designed to reproduce much below 80 Hz this driver should do ok for a home practice amp. It's easy to recommend a replacement driver when money is not a concern. This particular driver is not really meant for hifi. With a bumped back plate, ventilated pole piece, cloth accordion surround, 65Hz Fs and a sensitivity of 94db/w/m (probably fairly optimistic) this one is designed as a budget pro-sound driver, like those found in 2-way stage monitors for $120-$150/pair. However, I can't imagine using these, even in multiples for a gigging bass cab, at least not without a high pass filter. Fun project no doubt, but 'some' expenditure is required for use outside of ones home. The OP should compare it to the stock driver. I've little doubt that this one is the better driver. It would be worth trying with the port blocked (sealed).

    With approximately 0.85 cf internal volume, there is not enough volume for most 10 inch drivers to operate at their full potential. Oh yes, they will 'work', and probably not fart out, but a good 8-inch will do that and provide deeper, tighter bass. Using the largest driver that can be mounted on the front panel is rarely the best solution. Still, good use for that Line 6 driver.
     
  8. 5 Wire

    5 Wire

    Feb 1, 2013
    NorCal
    Most 10" drivers yes but, if you consider it came out of a smaller box than the Hog provides, it actually made sense. I did throw some insulation in and that brought the bottom out nicely.

    Doubtful. The only "good" 8 would be a sub and the chances of 30 watts making that sound good without porting are very slim.

    Agreed on both counts.
     
  9. "With approximately 0.85 cf internal volume, there is not enough volume for most 10 inch drivers to operate at their full potential. Oh yes, they will 'work', and probably not fart out, but a good 8-inch will do that and provide deeper, tighter bass."

    Try modeling a few of these drivers and compare them to some 10's. None of these are 'subs'. Then check out this thread: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/crazy8-crazy88-868215/

    http://www.usspeaker.com/eighteensound-8MB400-1.htm

    http://www.usspeaker.com/rcf - L8S800-1.htm

    http://www.usspeaker.com/B&C-8NDL51-1.htm

    http://www.usspeaker.com/faital pro 8pr200-1.htm

    http://www.usspeaker.com/faital pro w8n8200-1.htm

    http://www.usspeaker.com/faital pro 8fe200-1.htm

    http://www.usspeaker.com/ciare ndc8-3-1.htm
     
  10. mpdd

    mpdd neoconceptualist

    Mar 24, 2010
    LA
  11. With a Fs of 139Hz, Qts of 1.9 and Xmax of 1mm the Jensen Mod 8 is far from ideal for bass guitar use. Now it could 'work', but spls would have to be kept pretty low (rated 20w rms and 40w program), and the bass would be pretty soft, with poor note definition. The price is reasonable ($20), and if you will be playing at relatively low levels and/or with some bass cut this could be a fun driver to try.

    Good 8 inch drivers suitable for bass guitar are likely more expensive than what you had in mind.

    The Faital 8FE200 ($60) would work very well in this application. The cost is actually quite reasonable considering the quality of the driver.

    The Eminence Beta 8A would also work well ($60).

    At lower cost ($17) the MCM 55-2960 offers little to complain about at the price. Cast frame, Xmax 5.4mm, 2 inch voice coil, 80w power handling. The Qts and sensitivity are likely optimistic, but reasonably workable for your application.
     
  12. mpdd

    mpdd neoconceptualist

    Mar 24, 2010
    LA
    alright, i've got a show this weekend, going to check out some 8s next week, thanks for the input
     

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