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8 String Players

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by witness, Jul 26, 2003.


  1. witness

    witness Supporting Member

    Jan 31, 2002
    Arizona
    How do you have your bass tuned and why? It there an advantage/disadvantage to the way it's tuned? How does the low F# sound/feel? Do you need a particular amp/cab to give you the best sound for that low tuning? All comments on subject are welcome, thanks.

    Roc
     
  2. mark beem

    mark beem Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2001
    New Hope, Alabama
    Although I didnt get my 8 string until yesterday I have been playing 7s for a while... one with a low F# string and several with a high F.

    My 8 string that I just received is tuned in standard fourths from low F# to high F.. No real reason other than that follows normal tuning on any other bass.. I had messed around with "guitar" tuings, but it didn't feel natural to me.

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    I currently don't have a set-up that will faithfully reproduce the low F# at the moment.. That's my next project. There are a couple of guys on here that do have rigs rated to handle it so maybe they'll chime in here shortly and offer their coins.. But, you really do need a particular rig to handle it.. The secret to faithfully reproducing the lower freqs is the frequency response of the cab you're using and power.. It takes a lot of power to push out those notes!

    Only thing is that there aren't too many makes out there building stuff rated that low.. A few names come to mind... AccuGroove's 21" Whappo Grande.. Bag End makes one but I'm not sure of the model (they actually have a cab rated down to 8 Hz!!! :eek: ), and Madison Speaker's Hydra and MAB183 cabs..

    I'm sure I haven't covered everything here, so I'll step back and wait for one of the more experienced individuals to show up...
     
  3. mark beem

    mark beem Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2001
    New Hope, Alabama
    One thing I forgot to mention, but that's equally important is to make sure all the associated gear.. preamp, power amp, head, etc... is rated for those feqs as well.
     
  4. witness

    witness Supporting Member

    Jan 31, 2002
    Arizona
    Thanks ProgZilla, that is one awesome looking bass. What gauge strings do you or would you use for the low F#?
     
  5. mark beem

    mark beem Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2001
    New Hope, Alabama
    That's a .150 on the F#
     
  6. Bryan R. Tyler

    Bryan R. Tyler TalkBass: Usurping My Practice Time Since 2002 Staff Member Administrator Gold Supporting Member

    May 3, 2002
    Connecticut
    8 Hz? Geez, isn't the brown noise somewhere between 10-16Hz?
     
  7. Scott D

    Scott D

    Apr 21, 2003
    Minneapolis, MN
    actually, to acheive that 8 hz, (with the BE) you have to buy like a 2300 dollar processor for it...
     
  8. hey everyone,

    I play a Conklin 8 tuned from low F# to a high F natural.

    I don't know that there's any particular advantage to how it's tuned, that's just how I like it!

    as for the amp rig, here's the signal chain:

    - Demeter VTBP-201s preamp
    - Stewart World 2.1 digital power amp
    - AccuGroove El Whappo
    - AccuGroove Whappo Grande

    I have a taper core .153 for my low string that I love, but I'm used to medium lights. friends of mine use .163, .165, .168, and .175 strings.

    hope that was some help.

    from the low end,


    Stew
     
  9. mark beem

    mark beem Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2001
    New Hope, Alabama
    I think it's 7Hz Bryan... :meh:
     
  10. coyoteboy

    coyoteboy easy there, Ned Supporting Member

    Mar 29, 2000
    Sactomato, CA

    Though it only goes to 18Hz, the M version is only aroud $600-$700, I think. the $2K+ version is the full stereo model that is 8Hz. Now it's call INFRA instead of ELF, and the ELF-1 may no longer be available.
     
  11. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    well, my tunings are based on my main 7 string tunings that i've used since '93 - b-e-a-d-g-b-e. i add the low f# on my 8's.

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    and

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    crappy ass pics, i know. i'll get better ones when i get them back from bill - they were due for their 5 year 50k mile service :).