875 watts and 45 pounds !!!!!!

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by fokof, Jul 5, 2008.

  1. fokof

    fokof One day ,I'll be in the future

    Mar 16, 2007
    Here
    Had the pleasure to try one of these last week ;
    http://www.jblpro.com/installedsound/vpseries/vp7212MDP.html

    I'm a big fan of small ,light and powerfull and that just redefined my vision. Sounds very nice.
    Ccompared to similar sized amp this thing is LOUD !!!!!

    One problem with it is that it is so light , it moves by itself when played loud!!!

    I already have a RCF 310A wich is 350 watts and 27 pounds , I'm looking forward to acquire one of these for louder gigs.

    If your looking for a small , light , powerfull rig , have a look at these , plug into your fave preamp and go......
     
  2. Rune Bivrin

    Rune Bivrin Supporting Member

    Oct 2, 2006
    Huddinge, Sweden
    Looks awesome. But I can't help wondering about a gig where you need 875 watts for monitoring!:eek:
     
  3. ga_edwards

    ga_edwards

    Sep 8, 2000
    UK, Essex
    How about a small intimate gig like this
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  4. DanielleMuscato

    DanielleMuscato

    Jun 19, 2004
    Columbia, Missouri, USA
    Endorsing Artist, Schroeder Cabinets
    130+ db SPL @ 1 meter; holy crap! Why would you ever need that??

    edit: You mean, for use as a backline amp/cab?
     
  5. fokof

    fokof One day ,I'll be in the future

    Mar 16, 2007
    Here
    Yep.
    I only use Active full range monitor as bass amp.

    They are a little under a grand. I'll never complain about my drummer's volume anymore.....:smug:
     
  6. DanielleMuscato

    DanielleMuscato

    Jun 19, 2004
    Columbia, Missouri, USA
    Endorsing Artist, Schroeder Cabinets
    Interesting. I use a Line6 Bass POD xt Live; this might be worth looking into.
     
  7. fokof

    fokof One day ,I'll be in the future

    Mar 16, 2007
    Here
    I'm talking of these to use as a bass amp.
    An Ampeg SVT4pro is rated at 1200 watts..........

    So anybody looking for a bass amp of that kind of power but with a small footprint and lots of power would need one of these.
    Of course you won't have the 30hz of your lower register compared to an 8 X 10" or a 18", but your back is gonna like you.:smug:
     
  8. DanielleMuscato

    DanielleMuscato

    Jun 19, 2004
    Columbia, Missouri, USA
    Endorsing Artist, Schroeder Cabinets
    Watts aren't everything. My Crown K2 has 2500 watts @ 4 ohms, but my Markbass LMII (500 watts) is louder compared to my Line6 pre + Crown.
     
  9. fokof

    fokof One day ,I'll be in the future

    Mar 16, 2007
    Here
    I know. But like you said ; 134db spl/ 1 meter...... holy sh**

    People buy heads with 1000+ watts for bass , so 875 watts is not too much.
     
  10. Thundar

    Thundar Supporting Member

    Could this JBL monitor handle the B-string???
     
  11. Spencer!

    Spencer!

    Jun 25, 2006
    Seattle
    Owner, Pike Amplification & 3Leaf Audio
    134db! :eek:

    That rivals most 8x10's...
     
  12. Stumbo

    Stumbo Guest

    Feb 11, 2008
    Frequency Response : 80 Hz - 18 kHz ( ± 3 dB)
    Costs over $3k new.
     
  13. Rune Bivrin

    Rune Bivrin Supporting Member

    Oct 2, 2006
    Huddinge, Sweden
    Yeah, I understand that. I was just commenting on the use it's designed for. But I suppose if the gig is of the magnitude that you have to bring in bass and drums in the monitoring it makes sense.

    I have yet to play one of those.:crying:
     
  14. DanielleMuscato

    DanielleMuscato

    Jun 19, 2004
    Columbia, Missouri, USA
    Endorsing Artist, Schroeder Cabinets
    I play to ~1000 about once a week. My Schroeder 1210L + Markbass LMII is actually plenty, simply because the bass goes through the board. For medium-sized gigs without PA support, I use my Schroeder 21012L, Crown K2, and Line6 Bass POD xt Live. The only thing is, I love my Line 6, but it's too much to cart around along with my LM and Schroeder. I wouldn't mind having a powered cab that I could carry with one hand, my Line6 with my other, and my basses in a double bag on my back, though, and really, the Line 6 works best with a full-range, PA-type speaker anyway (it has amp, cab, and mic modeling, in addition to preamp and FX modeling).
     
  15. alexclaber

    alexclaber Commercial User

    Jun 19, 2001
    Brighton, UK
    Director - Barefaced Ltd
    If it moves by itself on a solid floor then it isn't sufficiently braced and is thus suffering from panel vibrations which won't be good for the sound.

    Alex
     
  16. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    Very few cabs can actually project 30 Hz much, but the monitor cab in this thread rolls off around 80 Hz, which is around E2 (not the low E, one octave up). So I would only use this if I didn't care about the lows at all. And there are already a number of powered cabs which are actually designed for bass frequencies. Maybe stacked on top of a powered subwoofer it would be cool. :)
     
  17. BetterBottomEnd

    BetterBottomEnd <- Not me I just like looking at her

    Jan 9, 2007
    Cable Wi
    Those look like great monitors not a bass amp though. At +3db at 80hz there isn't any real low end there. At that price point Berg IP series for me. The 112 weighs about the same and is in the neighborhood on wattage and actually voiced for bass.

    Of course this price point is way out of my league but if I had the scratch that's what I'd do.
     
  18. billfitzmaurice

    billfitzmaurice Commercial User

    Sep 15, 2004
    New Hampshire
    Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design
    If only. Manufacturer's 'Calculated Output' figures are about as accurate as your horoscope. :rolleyes:
    They are arrived at by linearly extrapolating the 1m/1w sensitivity figure to the full power thermal rating of the driver. This doesn't take into consideration the real world realities of mechanical and thermal power compression, which will result in as much as an 18dB differential between calculated and actual output figures. The JBL 2262 driver used in the 7212 is mechanically limited to 122dB. Loud, yes, but no more so than any 1x12 loaded with a similar premium woofer.
     
  19. Adam Bomb

    Adam Bomb

    Mar 26, 2008
    Bezerkely, CA
    You just ruined my day if you are saying that even one day when I am playing to a crowd of about a thousand once a week or so, I still might not have roadies. :bawl: I want roadies more than I want to get paid. I want roadies more than I want groupies.

    I just wanna rock. I just want someone else to carry my s**t. Is that so wrong?

    --Bomb :bassist:
     
  20. DanielleMuscato

    DanielleMuscato

    Jun 19, 2004
    Columbia, Missouri, USA
    Endorsing Artist, Schroeder Cabinets
    Haha. Well, unlike groupies, you can hire roadies anytime you want. I've had roadies for bar gigs before. It just depends on your budget and how much you're getting paid. Some bars/clubs provide a roadie or two.

    I just got home from a show with about 800 in attendance, using supplied backline of a Carvin 4x10 with a Carvin Redline 1000 head, with a direct-out to the board. In my opinion, that's even better than roadies - all I had to bring was my bass! :bassist:

    I'm gonna go pass out - I haven't slept since Friday night! :D