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98 escort versus 95 saturn

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by Groovecenter, Aug 28, 2007.

  1. I've narrowed my car search down to two cars. I'll list the things swaying me in either direction for each car:

    98 Escort Pros:
    -One owner, pretty meticulously cared for (underside wash, nitrogen filled tires, receipts and paperwork for all parts and work)
    -Cheap, at $1200
    -Four dour, though the back seats are tiny.
    -power windows and locks
    -new tires
    -A lot of the miles are highway miles

    98 Ford Escort cons:
    -144,000 miles; original clutch, will probably need replacement relatively soon
    -Kind of cramped driving seat (I'm 6 ft.)
    -Rear wheel makes noise; she had it checked by a mechanic who said it wasn't a problem, just noisy; has documentation.

    95 saturn sc (coupe) pros:
    -100,000 miles (still has original clutch, friend replaced one on his saturn at 120,000 miles)
    -plenty of leg room for driver
    -relatively new tires

    95 Saturn SC cons:
    -no power windows or locks
    -more expensive, at $1600
    -small backseat, two door car, small trunk.
    -supposedly, some saturns have a horrible oil burning problem.

    Both have just been inspected.

    I'm kind of torn on which one to choose.

    Basically, it comes down to an older car with less mileage, or a newer car with more mileage.

    Any advice?
  2. Baryonyx

    Baryonyx Banned

    Jul 11, 2005
    Marathon Man

    Go for it.
  3. Is that a serious reply in favor of the Saturn? Or not?
  4. Baryonyx

    Baryonyx Banned

    Jul 11, 2005
    Marathon Man
  5. Hmm, the internet doesn't allow me to read you, and the one word answer could for either question. Please expand upon it.
  6. I'd go for the saturn. but for either, change the oil at recommended intervals, and don't wind the piss outta them. People always liked their Saturns....
  7. Baryonyx

    Baryonyx Banned

    Jul 11, 2005
    Marathon Man
    man, this has turned out to be complex. I'd favour the Saturn, in that it, although it's more expensive, it's not in need of repair and has less miles on the clock.
  8. hbarcat

    hbarcat Supporting Member

    Aug 24, 2006
    Rochelle, Illinois
    -The engine in the escort GT is really a much better engine. I've had two escort GT's that I sold in still good running condition with over 260,000 miles on one and more than 330,000 miles on the other.

    -In my extensive experience, a clutch will last over 300,000 miles with someone who knows how to feather it, and will burn out in 30,000 miles with someone who doesn't, so the difference in mileage as far as the clutch is concerned is negligible. A noisy rear wheel is a wheel bearing that will eventually fail, but no tellling when. Fixing it is probably $120.

    -When I buy a car from a private party, one of my top priorities is finding a car with highway miles and meticulously kept with all receipts.

    -At 6' tall, if you're going to be cramped in the Escort, that would be a deal killer for me. It sucks to be uncomfortable the WHOLE TIME you're behind the wheel. Sit in both cars for at least 10 minutes each and see if one of them is significantly more/less comfortable.

    If it were me, I'd lean toward the Escort, (but with only a slight edge). :smug:
  9. Spector_Ray


    Aug 8, 2004
    I've owned 2 Saturns both with well over 100k on the clock. I traded the first one for the second. I traded the second only because the family was getting too big for the Saturn. I did regular maintenance on both and only had to replace the cv joints on the first one. They're very reliable with no oil burning issues with either. As a matter of fact, I'm looking for one for my daughter right now. Saturn edges out the Escort for me.
  10. After talking to mechanic neighbor, and considering the fact taht the escort had one owner with meticulous records and a lot of highway driving, I think the escort is edging the Saturn out as of now. Even with the wheel bearing replacement it is cheaper than the Saturn.

    Still more than willing to listen to opinions, and thanks for all the replies so far.
  11. Mike N

    Mike N Missing the old TB Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Spencerport, New York
    Kind of a toss up, I like both cars.

    On the Escort- Has the timing belt been replaced? Are the rear springs broken?

    On the Saturn- Is it a single or dual overhead cam? Some of the sohc's had a nasty habit of oil burning (my buddy's son has a 95 sohc that smokes like a freight train). To check this start it up and rev it up and hold it around 2500-3000 rpm and look for blue smoke out of the tailpipe.

    If it was up to me chances are I'd pick the Escort. Remember, though you are buying a $1200 - $1600 car and things will go wrong with it.
  12. Ericman197


    Feb 23, 2004
    Nitrogen filled tires? What's the deal with that? According to Wiki etc. nitrogen molecules are large and therefore seep out at a slower rate. However as far as I know from chemistry class, nitrogen is the smaller of the major constituents of air: oxygen has a slightly larger molecular weight and a larger atomic radius.

    Has anyone actually proved that nitrogen seeps out of the tires more slowly than oxygen? Or is this in the same category of myths as the 300mpg carburetor and acetone fuel additives?
  13. Spector_Ray


    Aug 8, 2004
    IIRC, supposedly since the nitrogen molecules are bigger so they don't react to temperature changes like oxygen molecules do. In addition, nitrogen doesn't attract moisture like oxygen does so the tire and rim won't oxidize. Modern day snake oil? Maybe, but the benefits are miniscule for an everyday driver. On a vehicle that doesn't see the road much, it may be an advantage.
  14. Mike N

    Mike N Missing the old TB Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Spencerport, New York
    Modern day snake oil it is. Maybe in hotter climates like Arizona it's beneficial (nitrogen filled tires are supposed to run cooler), but here in western NY it's a scam. Your rims will still corrode and the nitrogen will leak out just like regular air does.

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