A dreadful rehersal last night.......

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Rockin John, Nov 29, 2001.

  1. ......and only 2 weeks before our first gig.:(

    Yep. We played dreadful. And I'm quite distressed about it. If that happens when we go on, we'll get laughed off. Some of the usual (with the drummer) problems surfaced but, to be honest, we were all over the place. All of us were all over the place.

    The guys were saying, 'Don't worry. It'll be OK on the night.' And 'Everyone makes mistakes'. And all the usual stuff.

    What I'm getting round to, is asking whether other bands go through the same sorta thing. I mean, is it normal to do that? And if so how do you all deal with it? What do you draw from such situations that brings more improvement?

    We only get 2 hours rehersal per week anyway. And we know that it's not nearly enough, but that's life. So little rehersal time means we've not built a very long set. But...But...But

    Oooooooh dear. Perhaps. Oh, I dunno.

    Any wisdom folks? Please?

    John [a rather downbeat RJ:eek:]
  2. RAM


    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    2 hours of practice per week?:eek:

    How many songs do you practice in each practice?

    What kinds of problems are you referring to with the drummer?:confused:

    Do you ever feel that you have practices that everybody's dead on?;)

    These are some things you'll want to consider. Look at the quality of each practice. For example, if you aren't completely dead on, try to figure out if it's a particular song that always slips you guys up or a type of groove, or whatever.

    2 hours per week won't solve ANY problems, but one thing you can do is to break songs down and try just grooving to a part of a song for several minutes. Try to get a part of a song tight. Then work on expanding that section, gradually incorporating more parts until you've got the whole song. Record the before and after...listen closely to how tight each piece fits together. This is not the time to compliment each other (unless it's deserved) but rather to critique the overall performance. Your band will grow by leaps and bounds if you utilize this tool;)

    Mistakes are not corrected in a show. They are magnified.:eek:
  3. vegaas


    Nov 6, 2001
    It happens. Some practices we just arent clicking and on others we are dead on. We haven't had a truely horrible show yet, but we have had some truely horrible practices.
    There is a superstitous belief that if your last rehearsal before a show sucks, then the show will be awesome, if your dead on in the last rehearsal, then expect some problems with the show.
  4. neptoon


    Jul 25, 2000
    summerville, sc
    try working together with the drummer by yourself. it takes a while to get acquainted to each other's style so that you can lock in, but once you do, it's all good. you'll find that everyone has their idiosyncracies that can't be fully realized without practicing a lot as a band, or a rhythm section. it doesn't matter how great a bassist you are...if you aren't familiar with the guys you're playing with, you'll never be tight. and yes, mistakes are magnified at a performance. practice, man! talk to your band about it...2 hours a week doesn't cut it as a band no matter how much time you spend practicing as an individual.
  5. Joe Nerve

    Joe Nerve Supporting Member

    Oct 7, 2000
    New York City
    Endorsing artist: Musicman basses, Hipshot products
    My experience...

    If you guys have nailed the material in the past but just had a really bad rehearsal, the gig will probably go great. Bad rehearsals before a gig usually keep eveyone on thier toes. If things go too well sometimes people can get overconfident and then gigtime can be a huge disappointment.

    If there's stuf that definitely needs working out and you can't rehease more than 2 hrs a week, then everyone should commit to working on their own and making sure they know the material well.

    When we're desperate my band often has acoustic practices in one of our living rooms. The drummer plays on bongos or his lap, we use acoustic intruments, or real low volume electrics. Lots of stuff can get worked out like this - even if everyone can't make it and it's just me and one of the other guys.

    Good luck.
  6. Comakazi


    May 3, 2001
    Midwest US
    Lord knows I've been in that situation. Frustrating isn't it? I've never found it to be too much of a problem, though. But I guess it really depends on what the cause of the scatteredness is.

    Were peoples minds just elsewhere? Other things on their minds and not focused, or was more just unfamiliarity with the material? If it's just people not being "there" and focused I wouldn't pay it much mind. If it's the latter, though, well that requires a bit more examination.

    Two hours of practice a week isn't very much, especially if there are problems with understanding the material. That is what I would look at first. See if you guys could get together at least one more night a week or something. I know that when I was with prior bands, if there was a gap between gigs, when we got close to the upcoming gig we would step up rehearsal to make sure we were up to speed - better safe than sorry, ya know?

    Other than that, I would try not to stress too much. It definitely happens and is nothing to overly worry about, see what the next practice brings, try to relax and have fun! Good luck.
  7. OK guys. Thanks. Yeh. The two hours thing is coming over loud and clear. This music thing is just a hobby. We're all middle aged guys who've got other things to do, businesses to run, wives to nag and so on;)

    The drummer thing is difficult. I've covered it elsewhere but, basically, he's not up to much as a player so, musically, he and I have a running battle but he doesn't even know we're fighting each other.

    Normally rehersals aren't too bad.

    More info tomorrow. Gotta go now.

  8. RAM


    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I can relate to some of this...that's why I'm temporarily bandless...:mad:

    I'd say that if he's not much of a player, perhaps you can simplify your playing so you two are more together. You can help him grow over time, though I wouldn't expect much, based on what you've said.

    But, at least by simplifying your parts, you'll give him a chance to keep up with you. Have fun with it, though...no matter what, since it's a hobby, make sure you at least have fun:D
  9. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Our band has a history of sucking at the last rehearsal before a gig. We always do great at gigs. In fact, we get worried if we have a good rehearsal before a gig. Go figure.
  10. The bit about the material is quite an issue, at least with me. What we seem to have done is realise there's not enough material so have slipped in a couple more songs that clearly aren't as well learned as some of the others. You know, having to stop here and there cos it's all gone t*ts-up. ;) That seems to me to be a recipe for disaster because the last thing I want is major gaffs being made. There's enough pressure as it is without that: that's how I view it anyway.

    Perhaps there is an up side, though. We've two gigs over Christmas. Both are "soft" gigs where we know the audience. And we've also arranged a sort of public practice at our club on a 'family night' to get some feel for playing in public before we do these two shows.

    We are pulling in a couple more rehersals before we play, too. This Sunday for starters. I now feel there's perhaps enough time to get the extra songs to a passable state provided we slip them into the set when we've gotten going a bit, if you see what I mean.

    The business with the drummer is difficult for many reasons. Whilst I don't want to go over old threads, it is worth mentioning that, he tends to race ahead whilst I'm trying to hold him back. Another disaster waiting to happen, or what? I tell you, we do that old slow blues number Red House. I do the lead vocals and bass whilst the vocalist plays the drums (the drummer goes off somewhere!). What a breath of fresh air it is for me to have someone who can maintain a beat without a fight. I kid you all not, my 6 year old is quite a reasonable drummer - his drum teacher says so - and he'll soon be way ahead of our regular percussionist.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Thing is, should we carry on to do proper gigs after Xmas, you can't take 6 year olds into pubs, can you?

    As learned guys have said previously, there's only one answer to the conundrum of a bad drummer!

    Oh well.....