A good IEM system for clubs and medium sized venues

Discussion in 'Live Sound [BG]' started by JGbassman, May 6, 2018.

  1. As the title says, I’m looking for a current batch of IEM wireless systems that will work from small dive bars to medium sized venues (2k peeps) which is the extremes of the places I play these days.

    I have a nice set of 6 driver custom molded 1964 ears that I used when touring, I’m looking at the actual systems.

    I don’t need top of the line, but something with rechargeable batteries is a must. I won’t go through the buying batteries for every weekend gig again.

    I’ve looked hard at the Shure PSM 900 which seems to be a nice compromise between cost and performance. I looked at the psm300 system, but I didn’t see a rechargeable body pack option.

    I know there had been a lot of new technology and issues with frequencies in the last few years, anything I should know about, or am I on the right track with the psm 900 system? 1500 is about all I want to spend.

  2. Interesting. Either I'm dead on with my research and the shure is the best system on the market for my needs, or no one runs wireless in ears here.....

    Either way, I figured someone would have a comment regarding the new systems out these days.

    I did run a sennheiser system when I was touring, I'm not sure of the model, but the thing had quite a few drops and it ate a set of AA batteries every six hours of use. That turned me a bit off from their stuff regarding wireless in ear systems.

    Shure must still be the best system out there. I use a wireless vocal and guitar system and couldn't be happier with them.
  3. SubNoizeRat3691

    SubNoizeRat3691 Lovin' the lows

    Feb 1, 2010
    Davenport, IA
    The Shure PSM300RA system has a metal receiver that works with the rechargable system the 900 uses.

    It's $100 more at Sweetwater and such.
    Shure P3TRA215CL Wireless In-ear Monitor System - G20 Band

    It's the RA designation that tells them apart I believe (the pack is aluminum instead of plastic?).

    Good luck
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  4. SubNoizeRat3691

    SubNoizeRat3691 Lovin' the lows

    Feb 1, 2010
    Davenport, IA
    Fwiw my band uses 3 PSM300s, everyone loves them.
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  5. I also have the psm300 with rechargeable battery setup. It works really well and I can get 7 or 8 hours of gig time from a charge.
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  6. The new sennheiser g4 iem system gets my vote but if you are on a budget get the psm300 as its in my opinion the most affordable usable system with good sound quality.
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  7. bucephylus

    bucephylus Supporting Member

    Aug 18, 2002
    Central Ohio
    I’ve been using the Audio Technica M2 for more than a year. It has been flawless. I use 8 Duracell rechargeable batteries, rotating two at a time after each gig or rehearsal. So far, I have no reason to look at anything else.
    Last edited: May 8, 2018
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  8. s0c9

    s0c9 Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2014
    1964 Audio artist, Fractal Audio Beta Tester
    Been using the Senn G3 IEM for a couple of year.. works great with my 1964 A8's.... :)

    Note that these devices are NOT 2.4 or 5G ranges. They are in the 400-614MHz (UHF) range and SHARE the spectrum with local TV stations. So, whatever vendor you decide:
    IMPORTANT: make sure that you buy the appropriate "band" for your area.
    If you pick the WRONG band, you'll get massive interference from local TV transmitters, with hiss, dropouts and you may even pick up local TV broadcast audio. Then.. you'll end up blaming the wireless system. :)
    For example in the zip codes I checked for Senn - the "G" band was best. So my G3 IEM is "G" band.
    It's a flip top battery compartment, and uses rechargeable (2800 mAH) AA batts.

    Here's links to both the Shure and Senn "checker".. Enter product and zip and it will tell you the best for your area (A, B, G, H, J, .. etc.)
    SHURE: Wireless Frequency Finder | Shure Americas
    Senn: Sennheiser - Headphones & Headsets - Microphones - Business Communications
    Last edited: May 7, 2018
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  9. Thanks for the replies. I didn’t know the 300 series could be found with a rechargeable battery system. It hit all the needs I had for a system, so I will definitely be checking it out.
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  10. Barisaxman

    Barisaxman Gold Supporting Member

    Aug 17, 2005
    Omaha, NE
    Any of those listed will be just fine. I use Sennheiser EW300 G3. Yes, it's standard batteries...but I can buy a 48pk of batteries for 12 buck that will last me an entire year of gigging steadily, and I don't have to remember to charge anything. IMO the rechargeable battery idea is kind of a double-edged sword.
  11. Thanks for the reply, I’m not interested in using conventional batteries but if the 300 can use rechargeable ones I’m sold
  12. They have a rechargeable pack but you have to buy it and the charger separately
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  13. azfatboy


    May 11, 2016
    Did someone revive this thread from a decade ago? Who still thinks you need to buy a "rechargeable" unit??? With the not-recent advent of low self-discharge rechargeable batteries in standard sizes, why waste enormous money buying someone's proprietary battery (and charger!) designs? No more reliable than eneloops, and frighteningly expensive to buy a backup. Meanwhile, I can bring a boatload of fully charged batteries with me for a few bucks.

    So I gues I'm the opposite of thd OP. I will *only* buy a system that uses a standard battery type, and use rechargeables of course. (This also has the extra benefit of being able to pick up a pack of duracells in a crunch).
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  14. Well of course you are entitled to your opinion, seems you have no troubles sharing it with us here as well. I’m super excited for you, that you will only buy a unit that takes standard batteries, but that’s just not what I’m interested in. If that works for you, party on Wayne.

    I’m looking for something along the lines of my shure GLX-D, which has a built in battery port, or a way to recharge the supplied batteries. The above mentioned system runs an average of 16 hours on a full charge, and has never once failed in the hundreds of shows I’ve used them in over the last three years or so. I’m simply looking for an wireless monitor system along those lines. It’s been a few years since I’ve used a wireless monitor system and was wondering what the current technology had in store for me. If modern rechargeable batteries are on par with the GLXD system, I’d be interested. If not, well then I’ll pass. A good rechargeable system is so reliable I wouldn’t need s handful of batteries as backups.

    So please keep the snarky comments to yourself. If you have useful information to put out, then I would appreciate that. If not, then move on son, nothing here for you.


  15. I’m not familiar with Mipro, or eneloops. I will look into them. Thanks.
  16. BassAndReeds

    BassAndReeds Guest

    Oct 7, 2016
    I use rechargeable AA batteries for my IEM pack. (Shure PSM300). Work just like any other rechargeable battery, spares are cheap, and they can be used in other systems besides the IEM. I bet the charger is cheaper as well, but can’t prove that currently.

    I say this as a “FWIW, having a rechargeable battery really shouldn’t be a prerequisite in choosing a system. Cause you can add that cheaply”.

    I’d concern yourself more with brand reliability and usability. Which of course Shure, Sennheiser, and Audio-Technica all excel.
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  17. A rechargeable battery is a rechargeable battery. Does it really matter what shape it has?

    I use eneloops and love them.

    Sorry, nothing to add about an IEM system.
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  18. One advantage to the battery that is made to go with the shore PSM300 system is that it enables the pack to show a little more info regarding power management. It also allows the pack to be placed into a charging base to be charged, something that is very useful if you have multiple systems in use.

    Small things to some make a difference to others. I myself have no desire to carry around a bunch of spare batteries. I have a charger on the end table in my house, and one in the gig bag in case I need it on the go. It's a very efficient system and I like it.
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  19. azfatboy


    May 11, 2016
    Wow, you ask for opinions, and then tell someone to keep their opinion to themselves?

    I *was* answering your question, in a light-hearted (if slightly snarky) way. Would a few :) ;) :) 's have helped???

    Indeed, almost every poster after me has agreed with me, that there is absolutely no need to artificially limit your search to proprietary rechargeable aystems.

    Perhaps from now on you should clarify in your posts that you are not interested in any opinion that differs from your preconceived notions, and everyone will know to only offer their opinion if it agrees with yours...
  20. azfatboy


    May 11, 2016
    You don't have to carry around any more batteries than you would "battery packs", my point was only that you CAN, easily and cheaply. And I also have a "charging base". It's an Opus BT-C3100, which can quickly (or slowly) charge batteries of many sizes,. And removing a pack and placing it in a charger is no faster or more convenient than removing batteries and placing them in a charger. You do have a small point regarding power mgmt, but would you ever go to a gig without a full charge? If not, then I would argue that the level meter is of limited actual value.

    I am not saying that those systems don't work well, just that they are no longer the only viable option. They are now simply, by far, the most expensive one...