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A good Radar Detector

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by P. Aaron, Jun 2, 2005.

  1. P. Aaron

    P. Aaron Supporting Member

    I have a great driving record. But with the revenue hungry municipalities looking for coin any way they can, I have thought about buying one.

    Any reccomendations?
  2. eric234

    eric234 Guest

    Mar 11, 2005
    dude don't buy one if you get caught you will get fined almost double
  3. P. Aaron

    P. Aaron Supporting Member

    In Michigan, to the best of my knowledge, it's not illegal to have one. I know that the Canadian authorities forbid them.

    Stateside for the most part, I think they're legal.
  4. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    Nothing realy works. My brother is a Trooper, he has nailed people with Valentine's, Escorts, you name it. I keep trying to weasel some magic trick out of him, but apparently there isn't one.
  5. Basshole

    Basshole Inactive

    Jan 28, 2005
    Valentine One. NOTHING is better. I've tried them all.
  6. Bassic83


    Jul 26, 2004
    Texas, USSA
    Two suggestions- ride your bicycle, or get a horse and ride it. :smug:
  7. canopener


    Sep 15, 2003
    Isle of Lucy
    Ask TB's own Bad Brains.
  8. burk48237

    burk48237 Supporting Member

    Nov 22, 2004
    Oak Park, MI
    I've heard the Valintine too, ever since I got an SUV, I don't whip around as much so I don't need it as bad. P. I know where you live, I've never seen anyone get a ticket around there! :D
  9. nonsqtr

    nonsqtr The emperor has no clothes!

    Aug 29, 2003
    Burbank CA USA

    Nope. Don't come out here to California with one of those. They'll nail you faster than you can say "P-bass".

    The cops here have anti-radar radar. Just try traveling on the 15, from LA to Vegas. You'll see. :D
  10. canopener


    Sep 15, 2003
    Isle of Lucy
    Not speeding at horrible rates of speed has always worked for me...
    :eek: :bag:
  11. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    Aside from the common sense answer. :smug:

    I don't speed like that myself anymore anyway, I was asking more out of curiosity than anything else.
  12. valentine 1 -hand down.Period.
    Why -it has the greatest range, the highest sensitivity, and it has directional arrows. I have no idea how i ever used a radar detector w/o direction arrows before-but i can't live w/o them now.
    lastly, don't sweat anti-radar radar detectors (ARD). Valentine 1 are invisible-why because mike valentine designed and created the radar gun 20 yrs ago and all the recent version used today. His detectors don't emit on any of the frequency the ARD work.
    the downside is it is the priciest one- approx $400 new, 250-300 used
  13. Hurley


    Feb 12, 2004
    Cape Cod, MA
    I just can't agree. My dad has one, and it is an awesome unit, just not the best. It was for quite some time, but now the Bel RX65 and Escort 8500 are as good, or better, for less money.

    Check it out: Detector Test
  14. malthumb


    Mar 25, 2001
    The Motor City
    Y'all need to experience Southeast Michigan driving.

    • I-696 is Michganese for Autobahn. Less than 70 will get you killed. Either by someone rear-ending you or just running you off the road ala road rage.
    • The Lodge and The Southfield are like a NASCAR track. People come off the on-ramps like their coming out of the pits, 'cause you have @ 1/8 mile to merge with highway speed traffic.
    • The Lodge and The Southfield both have the dangerous mix of people driving 75 - 90 mph and people using them like they're city streets, going 45 mph in the lanes that the NASCAR drivers ar merging in on.
    • Try being in the left lane on either Woodward or Telegraph with the need to turn right in less than 3/4 of a mile. Can't be done without SERIOUS high speed merging.
    • Then you have "speed zones" where the speed limit goes from 45 to 35 mph for a block or two, then back to 45. The motorcycle radar units usually are hiding somewhere in the 35 mph zone. Not that I would have ever experienced this personally.

    Radar detectors are illegal in Virginia, DC, and a couple other Atlantic seaboard states.



    BTW - I met a guy who worked at Cincinnati Microwave. He said his company comes out with radar timing products for the police. Then they come out with radar detectors to warn against the radar timers. Then they develop new radar units that the radar detectors don't pick up too well, unitl they introduce the next radar detector. What a business. I wanted to buy stock.
  15. Hurley000-we will agree to disagree...
    your source radartest.com is a paid site -who pays for it. The past 3 yrs in a row, car& driver and road & track have declared valentine1 as their detector of choice- they are unbiased-supposedly, and its won many of their shootout in huge margins, that said, its all track testing and real world is a better test bed. I found the valentine to be worlds better than my 2 yr old Bel and my 3 yr old escort. but to each his own.
  16. burk48237

    burk48237 Supporting Member

    Nov 22, 2004
    Oak Park, MI
    James, The scariest thing is that where Aaron and I live, The Huntington Woods-Oak Park-Ferndale-Berkley-Royal Oak Corridor they have big police Depts and little crime. So basically all they do is write tickets:

    :There's Southbound Woodward in Ferndale where the speed limit goes from 50 to 35 as you come out from the overpass.

    :There's Scotia (my street) crosses 696, 25 mph speed limit and there are plenty of days 29 will get you a ticket, and don't dare roll through a stop sign!

    :11 mile road, main thoughrofare, speed limit 30 mph in Huntington Woods, every where else it's 40.

    :In Oak Park every main road is 5 lanes (4 traffic-left turn), not a lot of traffic, and the speed limits are 35 mph.

    : Then there's 696 with State Troopers and Huntington Woods (1/2 mile stretch) police working the exit ramps

    I've seen 3 cars pulled over on my street in a mile of driving! These guys make a ton of revenue, and the insurance companies buy them the laser guns. Of course if you get a ticket your insurance goes up! Talk about a racket. The good thing is there are lots of cops, if you have a problem in Oak Park and call the police their there before you put the phone down, because they were sitting right around the corner in the speed trap! And as a follow up, my driving record is clean!
  17. Last time I heard (a few years ago), Virginia was the lone state in the Union that prohibits them... anyone wanna guess where I live?
  18. Tash


    Feb 13, 2005
    Bel Air Maryland
    The laws can vary a great deal state to state. In VA they are flat out illegal, same in CA. In MD they are legal but if you are caught speeding and have one you can get an additional fine.

    I used to have a Valentine 1, in the two years I owned it I caught every speed trap before it caught me. I eventually sold it, to a MD State Trooper no less, because I decided driving more responsibly was a better idea...I have since had 3 major speeding tickets. I'm planning on getting another detector shortly, though the V1 is decidedly dated now and there are probably better alternatives on the market.
  19. secretdonkey


    Oct 9, 2002
    Austin, TX
    The Valentine or Escort 8500 should serve you well... if you stay mindful of their role in "the game." People who try to let the detector do all of the work will probably wind up with a ticket, eventually.

    I played the game with a "lowly" Escort 7500 quite successfully. Driving strategy and knowledge of police habits, CONSTANT vigilance, and a knowledge of your detector's idiosyncrasies are all part of the game. Is the game worth all of the effort? I decided it wasn't, and retired to a career of just driving with the flow of traffic.

  20. P. Aaron

    P. Aaron Supporting Member

    The last time I got a "moving violation" ticket was in 1989. I NEVER go over the posted limit in a residential neighborhood, every neighborhood deserves respect.

    On most thoroughfares, I am usually well within the legal limit. On the freeway, I simply make sure I am never the fastest guy out there. When that "Lodge Rocket" comes flyin' by, I say: "Thank You!"

    I am more curious about having one (detector) than utilizing it in its entirety. Now and then, however, on an empty, open road, you'd like to speed with confidence.

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