A lost lil puppy in a loud lil world

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by dominicRHIN, Dec 18, 2014.

  1. dominicRHIN

    dominicRHIN

    Dec 18, 2014
    so i have been playing my backline 600 (300 watts) through my avatar cab 4 by 10 (4 ohms). I run a ratt pedal through it too. recently the head has started to red lining (?) and clip, the red light would come on couple seconds then i could play again, it also cut out to a low growl volume level for a second yesterday. Im not sure if i have done damage, but im woried its on its way out. Im looking for a new head thats got some punch to it. What watt should i be looking for too? any recommendations on amp heads?
     
  2. beans-on-toast

    beans-on-toast

    Aug 7, 2008
    You don't get rid of a puppy because he acts up. Maybe a trip to the vet for a general checkup would resolve the issue. Could be as simple as dust. At least the new dog would have a mate to play with.
     
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  3. shoot-r

    shoot-r

    May 26, 2007
    Illinois
    First thing I'd try is take your Ratt pedal out of the loop, see if that helps, check batterys if your bass is active, check cords, make sure nothing is shorting out and making the amp red line.

    If the problem does turn out to be your BL600 and you like the G.K. sound of the head you have now, I'd suggest looking into another G.K. head.
    Maybe a old-school G.K. 700RB or 1001RB or a G.K. micro like a MB-500 or MB-800.

    I'm driving my Avatar cabinets (two, 210 Neo cabinets) with a Hartke LH1000 head.....absolutely love it!
    It's 1,100 watts at 4 ohms, tube preamp, tone stack controls, xlr out, ect.
    $499.00 brand new.
     
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  4. dominicRHIN

    dominicRHIN

    Dec 18, 2014
    how would you describe the sound of the Hartke LH1000 headHartke LH1000 head?
     
  5. dominicRHIN

    dominicRHIN

    Dec 18, 2014
    also is 1000 watts the way to go or would 500 work? lets say its not my cords etc is it just that im overworking my head and need more power
     
  6. Could be a clogged or dead cooling fan. Could be a speaker damaged you couldn't hear starting while using the effects pedal. A Hartke head is a long trip from the G-K. You might like it or it could frustrate you. Don't expect much "tube sound" from that one tube stuck in the middle of the Hartke BTW.
    You are using an actual SPEAKER cable? Not an instrument cable to run to the cab.
     
  7. dominicRHIN

    dominicRHIN

    Dec 18, 2014
    hey thanks turns out its the speaker which i just hadnt figured only couple months old, so that sucks. Both are 4 ohms what else can do damage?
     
  8. I don't understand what you are asking?
    The cab is nominal 4 ohms (in proper working order), the amp is rated down to a 4 ohm load. If the amp "sees" a load lower than 4 ohms the protect circuit is there to, hopefully, keep the amp from letting out the magic smoke.
    Please let me know if there is another question I may be able to help with. :)
     
  9. shoot-r

    shoot-r

    May 26, 2007
    Illinois

    I'm with a "loud", 5 pcs., classic rock, two 100 watt Marshall's w/412 Marshall cabinets equipped guitarist and a drummer that doesn't ever play mildly, group.
    I've never had to run the Hartke/Avatar rig past 4.

    500 watts (like the Hartke LH500) maybe enough for what your doing, I just wanted all the clean headroom I could get and to make sure I could always keep-up with the Marshall's.


    (Pros of the LH1000.....)
    750 watts at 8 ohms, 1,000 watts at 4 ohms, 1,100 "total" watts at 4 ohms.
    Tube preamp.
    Fender style tone stack controls.
    Big, solid, clean, loud, LOUD, sound.
    Quiet xlr out.
    Simple knob lay-out.
    It's sound sets in the mix with a live band perfectly to my ears.
    $499.00 for a brand new 1,000 watt head with a warranty.

    (Cons of the LH1000.....)
    In this day of micro heads this isn't one.
    It's 19"x14.5"x3.25".
    31.90 lbs.
    You'll have to learn the "how to" of the tone stack controls. (It's easy actually.)
    If you want distortion you'll need a pedal. (This head is clean with miles of headroom.)




    I see where you might have blown a driver in your Avatar cabinet.
    What drivers are in your cabinet?
    My Avatar 210 cabinets came with Eminence 2510 Neo drivers.
    They've never flinched with the 6 years of abuse I've handed them.





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  10. dominicRHIN

    dominicRHIN

    Dec 18, 2014
     
  11. dominicRHIN

    dominicRHIN

    Dec 18, 2014
    speakers were tested work fine