I've been doing some research...I'll just leave it there for now, but in the process, I've found some inaccuracies on All Music, which is a very good source of information on discographies, session dates, et al. But, I've also submitted about half a dozen corrections to them of errors I've found on their site and I noticed the first of the changes tonight. Does that make me a published author and expert? "Kenny Dorham's Memorial Album" was listed as a compilation, but it has a single session date and a single band. It actually was kind of a B.S. name. It was originally titled "The Arrival of Kenny Dorham" on a label called Jaro and re-released post-humously with the memorial name on the still lesser known Xanadu label, making it sound like a compilation. But, I straightened that mess out! Great record, by the way. A very nice surprise. I've got some other edits into them too and suspect that I'll make a habit out it as much as I take from them. I wonder if they will ever send me a note either thanking me or telling me to cut it out?
This reminds me about an article I just read in UK JazzWise magazine about how the internet is inevitably dumbing down our culture! So they were saying how recognised experts cost money, while most net searchers just want free content - so reputable site are having to lay off good researchers, while people flock to Blogs and Wiki!! Inevitably we will have no reliable sources and whoever can best hack into Wiki will determine the future picture of culture....
That's an interesting point and has some solid validity. It is one of the reasons that I'm doing what I'm doing, which I'll disclose at some point. For now, go to AllMusic.com and look at the musicians credited as having played on Kenny Dorhams "Jazz Contrasts" album. Unless they've made my corrections, you'll see that it's quite a crowded quinted acording to them. These are the historical archives of the future. I've been taking my opportunities to get what aural history I can when I can and do what research I can. Lately it's compelled me to clean up some of these inaccuracies when I find them. More to come. Ed, are you keeping a list of the things you're going to kick my ass for? I'm willing to take a beating, but I just don't want you to lose track and then have to come back and finish the job after I think it's over. []
"So even though the liner notes clearly state that the recording was made on September 15th, it's my conjecture, and I'll stand behind this, that it was , in fact, recorded on September 14th. While visiting with Kenny Dorham's wife's gardener's cousin's next door neighbor, I was shown a photograph of Kenny in the back yard sipping a Fanta and reading a fresh copy of the Pennyville Shopper Gazette, dated September 14th. Now if you listen closely to the second alternate take of the third cut, I think you'll agree that Kenny flubs a valve release at 3:23 into the recording. Many people thought the valve was sticking but, as I found out in many subsequent conversations with the engineer and others, that it wasn't the valve sticking, but Kenny's finger ON the valve sticking. Now, remember that grape Fanta he was drinking on September 14th? The likelihood of Kenny NOT washing his hands in between the 14th and the 15th is unlikely, so we can pretty much take as gospel the fact that sticky grape drink is still on his hand on the 14th (indeed Francis Wolf's many photographs of the session show a remarkably Fanta shaped bottle in the background), thus accounting for the sticky fingering, causing a retake.' ****ing Phil Schaap...
HA! I'm not familar with the man's work, but yeah...I see your point. That's not what I'm going for. My "research" started as very self serving. I was collecting and transcribing Butch Warren recordings, especially after meeting him and seeing him play in DC in the fall. Butch Warren recordings are not exactly famous, even though some of them are very famous-in-jazz-circles records. But, I'm using things like jazzdisco.org and allmusic as sources trying to find a complete list. It's helpful, but then I'm finding some historically interesting things, like Ike Quebec sessions that he recorded that weren't released. I know the dates, tracks, musicians, the number Blue Note assigned to it, but they rejected it for some reason. But then, there's an Ike Quebec complilation the AllMusic credits Butch Warren on. Except that none of the songs on the compilation on the compilation match the tracks on the rejected session. But, AllMusic can't be wrong can it? Except that they claim that Jimmy Garrison played on Kenny Dorham's Jazz Contrasts, which he most certainly did not. Butch's bio says he played in Monk's band from 1963-1964, but he's on Monk albums from Japan, Europe and in the US as early as '59 and as late as '63 or maybe '64. I want to fix that because while Oscar Pettiford and Scott LaFaro and Ray Brown have secured their place in history, I want Butch's to be accurate. Which records he was on, what song's he composed, who he played with. And, where I started and my own, primary motives are just trying to make sure I know where and what his recording are so that I can prowl my friend's record collections and all of Seattle's dusty record shops (there are a great many) for what I can't find. I fear I may be becoming the world's foremost authority on the discography of BW, in the process (and I'm learning quite a bit about Jackie McLean, Kenny Dorham, Booker Ervin and a few others in the process) I feel obliged to clean up the wikisphere for the future generation of unprofessional, unpaid researchers, to Bruce's point.
You have to know NY (or just google a map I guess) for my favorite Schaap story. He does a Clifford Brown birthday broadcast every year and one year I have a gig out on Lawn Guyland. Take all my stuff downstairs put it in the car in Brooklyn (9th St between 5th and 6th Ave) and turn on the radio. A tune is just ending and Phil starts talking. I drive 2 and a half blocks up to 8th ave and hang a left. I drive about 15 blocks til I hit Flatbush and make a right and around the traffic circle so I'm on Eastern Parkway. I drive many many blocks till I hit the confluence of Eastern, Atlantic and South Conduit. I hang a right onto Atlantic and then merge onto Conduit. I take Conduit to the entrance to the Southern State and THEN Phil puts on another cut of music. He was talking for at LEAST 35 minutes...
Aah, Brooklyn. I don't think I've ever done that in less then an hour. And there were times when Schaap would STILL have been yammering on. You could drive out to Montauk, hop on a boat and dock it up on Martha's Vineyard and that guy will still be talking.