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A new beginning for my bass setup

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by CYoung, Oct 14, 2001.


  1. CYoung

    CYoung

    Nov 30, 2000
    Gainesville, FL
    Ok, I am bouncing this off you guys to get some input on whether you think this is a good idea. I am not really happy with my current amp/speakers/basses setup and have about decided to sell it all and start over with one GOOD bass, GOOD amp, and one GOOD cab. My idea, so far is as follows:

    Guitar: Peavey Cirrus 4, fretted, bubinga
    Amp: Ampeg B2R
    Cabinet: Ampeg SVT-410HE (If I could fit an 8x10 in my car, I would get it instead!)

    I mostly want a good full, warm sound that provides nice definition for the Cirrus' active pickups. I mostly do small to medium gigs and do not need massive power.

    Whaddya think?
     
  2. barroso

    barroso

    Aug 16, 2000
    Italia
    i suggest you to try a SWR, i own a swr 400s and i love it!
     
  3. If you want the 8x10 sound get two 4x10's there is a difference, IMO. Or you could look into 6x10's or adding on 2x10's...
     
  4. CYoung

    CYoung

    Nov 30, 2000
    Gainesville, FL
    My knowledge of SWR stuff is very limited, so forgive the silly question: what is a 400s? Is that an amp/cab/combo?

    I would love an SWR Super Redhead, but that is likely way outside my budget for now!
     
  5. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    Check out Peavey's new amps and cabinets. I too own a Cirrus and Peavey's new gear is every bit as good as OTHER high end equipment and much less expensive.
     
  6. I have the ampeg head and cab and you will not find anything "cleaner" for under $1500. Don't know about the bass though. If you are interested I have seen the B5r on ebay for what a B2r is used, I would have bought it in a minute but I had just gotten the b2r.
     
  7. CYoung

    CYoung

    Nov 30, 2000
    Gainesville, FL
    Sundogue-

    Actually, at the moment, I am all Peavey, from guitar to speakers! I am definitely convinced that the Cirrus will be my main bass, but I am just not really happy with the Peavey sound from my gear. Admittedly, the Peavey stuff sounds better the louder I drive it! Nothing quite has a mid-bass kick like a PV Black Widow 15 driven right to the edge (heck, I will probably keep my BW 15 to go with the Ampeg 4x10 for large gigs).

    I have been quite impressed with the Ampeg stuff so far and I suspect the combo of Ampeg + Cirrus will be a good one. I have found a few used Ampeg heads around, also, which may make this project cheaper.
     
  8. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    Well CYoung, I have always liked Ampegs tube sound...though I like the ability to blend some SS into it.

    I find the MAX pre-amp does a great job with the tube sound. Peavey's 412 cab is AWESOME. It is the only cab I have and it can compete with our PA, which says alot as we have a pretty nice, all JBL, PA system.

    The 412 gives thundering lows and exceptional definition to all notes, from a low B all the way up. I do have to agree with you that Peavey cabs like to be driven, but that is not a bad thing. Our JBL cabs in our PA are the same way...and they are anything but low budget speaker cabs.
     
  9. barroso

    barroso

    Aug 16, 2000
    Italia
    SWR sm 400s is an head. now they have replaced this unit with the 500. but they are quite the same. i play rock'n roll and i like a lot the sounds i can have from this unit.
     
  10. phunky345

    phunky345

    Jun 20, 2000
    Missoula, MT
    I probably wouldn't mind peavey if I weren't such a gear snob!
    Oh well.
     
  11. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    I honestly think that most bass players wouldn't mind Peavey if they played through it and there was absolutely no markings on it of any kind that showed it was a Peavey product.

    In fact, all of my gear (except my Cirrus) has no Peavey logos on it. I took them all off. No one knows unless I tell them. When I do, they are quite shocked that it is Peavey.

    We live in a society where image is everything. What matters most is how you sound...not what it is you play through.
     
  12. phunky345

    phunky345

    Jun 20, 2000
    Missoula, MT
    I actually find the peavey logo to be really ugly, it's like stuck in '88 or something. And it's not like peavey is the best-sounding amp out there, I mean Eden stuff, Acme, Ashdown stuff, for those few who can afford it sound so wonderful.
     
  13. Gabu

    Gabu

    Jan 2, 2001
    Lake Elsinore, CA
    Is portability an issue?

    I don't know from personal experience, but I hear a lot of praise for the acme low b2. You could get a pair of those and then use the ampeg b2r along with a carvin dcm 1000. That should be portable, loud and definatey "good". ;)
     
  14. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    Actually I can afford those...all of those at the same time if I cared to. I still like my Peavey setup better.
     
  15. WarwickFRK

    WarwickFRK Guest

    Oct 14, 2001
    I would have to reccommend SWR Professional Series gear. I just got an SWR rig and it sounds incredible, honestly it does. I use a Thumb5BO and it just rips! I have a SWR 350 head, Goliath III 4x10 (awesome sounding cab), and a Son of Bertha 1x15 (real good for playing the B string). The only downfall might be volume. But I don't think it will be a problem for my applications I am using the rig for. And yes the biggest down fall is price. But remember, you get what you pay for. Before using a rig I had an SWR combo that I used all of the time, before that a peavey....which i do not favor at all.

    ps- don't bother with the working man series, i had bought a 4004 head and it didn't hold up for me. tone wise. my friend bought a workingman cab and the speaker fell out! Not sure why but....
     
  16. I too own a SWR SM 400-S and love it!
    I looked at the SM 500's but went with the NOS 400-S because it's a classic!
    The newer models don't have a crossover.

    My perfect match is the SM 400-S w/ Henry 8x8.
    The amp puts out 500 watts bridged @ 4 ohms and the Henry is rated at 480 watts @ 4 ohms... together they kick major butt.

    SWR gear really shines with a Warwick bass.
     
  17. phunky345

    phunky345

    Jun 20, 2000
    Missoula, MT
    Gallien-Krueger's older stuff is awesome and costs very little. On ebay, you can get the same head Flea uses for under $400! Just put on a mesa 2x15 and an expensive modulus bass and you have......Flea minus (presumably) the rock star! Anyways, give GK a try if you can. Like peavey, it's not the prettiest stuff out there, but the sound, LOUDNESS, and price combination is virtually unbeatable.
     
  18. CYoung

    CYoung

    Nov 30, 2000
    Gainesville, FL
    Ok, just looking at Musicians friend and they had a Nemesis 4x10 combo for a reasonable price tag. A 4x10 combo might be just what the doctor ordered. Problem is, no info on whether or not you can hook up an external cab. What do you guys think of this amp?
     
  19. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    Nemesis is Eden's lower quality gear...and going with a combo is not what I would do.

    A head and/or rack unit will allow you to change components whereas a combo leaves you no room for future upgrades, short of replacing the whole thing. Just my opinion. If you can try one out first, that's the best.

    Going on name alone is not the best way for you to know exactly what you will sound like...only actually hearing yourself play through the gear you want will make your decision for you.
     
  20. CYoung

    CYoung

    Nov 30, 2000
    Gainesville, FL
    You are absooutely right, of course. Problem is that Gainesville, FL is sorely lacking in quality music stores. I can fnd every type of Crate amp you want, but try to find the high-end PV stuff, musch less Eden, Bergantino and stuff. I guess Ineed to road trip to Orlando, Jacksonville, or Tampa and try out a bunch o stuff.