A pedal to enhance that 'slap sound' ??

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Panther, Dec 24, 2004.

  1. Panther


    Dec 9, 2004
    Nova Scotia

    Just wondering if anyone had any input on a pedal out there that will help get that killer slap tone.

    I use a Stingray 5, but I think the problem is in the amp-it's a Trace Elliot combo (712). It has a 7 band graphic EQ, the tradidional Trace mid-preshape, and compression. Lastly, it's got a 12" speaker

    I just don't feel I get the slap sound that I hear a lot.

    Finger style sound great, just the slap is off the mark as far as tone goes....

    Anyway, any suggestions?
  2. Beav

    Beav Graphics Whore

    Jul 17, 2003
    Middle Tennessee
    Designer: Beav's Graphics
    An EQ pedal will help you dial in the sound you want when slapping.
  3. Lewis7789


    Sep 17, 2004
    Akron, Ohio USA
    Sales; ClearSonic Mfg.
    How about a chorus pedal? I use some chorus when I go to some slapping in a couple of my bands songs. It thickens up the tone and gives the pops a nice tone.
  4. It may be overkill, but dialing in the slap tone on the SBDDI pedal works as a killer slap stomp box.
  5. Samurai


    Sep 13, 2003
    I would agree that it is the amp. Try to bring up the gain it you can and see how that sounds.
  6. my guess is you would want more than just a 12 inch speaker. i used one inside of my college's ensamble, and it just sounded honky and didn't provide the depth that i usually could get from my own setup
  7. nemo


    Mar 19, 2004
    If you come accross it, try the Boss LMB-3 Bass Limiter/Enhancer. I used to use one a couple of years ago (before I forgot it on stage after one gig..) and it nicely spiced up the slap sound even with 1x15 combo. http://www.bossus.com/index.asp?pg=1&tmp=27
  8. gfab333


    Mar 22, 2000
    Honolulu, Hawaii
    My first suggestion is for you to try a different head and cab at the music store or a friend's rig. The problem that you're having may be due to your rig. Other TBers may have a different opinion, but I don't think that I could get a really good slap tone from a TE head. You may also need a bigger cab like a 2-10, 2-12, 4-10, etc.

    If you'd like to try to work with what you have and use a pedal to improve your sound, I'd recommend any of these pedals: Aphex Bass Exciter, Sadowsky preamp, Nathan East semi parametric EQ, wtc., I might have missed a few. They will all do pretty much the same thing, cut specific mid frequencies, and boost certain attractive low and high frequencies.
  9. johans

    johans G.U.I - Groovin' under influence

    Oct 28, 2004
    the Bay Area, CA
    depends what you want though

    in my case

    some reverb and minor delays would make my slapping sounds great :)
  10. EricTheEZ1


    Nov 23, 2004
    Clawson, MI
    Does your amp have a horn with the 12" speaker? A 12" speaker can't do much for a killer slap tone and if there's no horn than you're REALLY screwed. I had an awesome Ampeg 15" 100W combo, but it didn't have a horn. It makes all the difference for slap.

    My current rig wasn't the best for slap until I bought the Boss GEB-7 Bass EQ, but I only needed it because my amp head didn't have a graphic EQ. Since yours does, it's most likely the amp's features or lack thereof.


    P.S. - You've got a Stingray...it's not your bass; that's for sure.
  11. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA
    I like compression while slapping. It makes the dead notes more apparent making it more percussive.
  12. johans

    johans G.U.I - Groovin' under influence

    Oct 28, 2004
    the Bay Area, CA
    eq pedal for sure ...
  13. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA

    *finds a hacksaw and a map to Marcus Miller's house*
  14. Panther


    Dec 9, 2004
    Nova Scotia
    Thanks for the input gang.

    My trace does not have the horn-straight 12". I actually find that if I do wish to slap in a song, it just disappears sometimes.

    My suspicions pointed to the amp, but pedals/effects are cheaper!
  15. _Unregistered_


    Nov 3, 2004
    Another vote to crucify the amp. ;)

    Trace is notoriously mid scooped. I used to hate running into their amps on tour. I couldn't hear squat on the stage, but people's hair in the fifth row would be blowing around. Soundmen would be casting sinister glances at me. Those things are wierd.

    My worst nightmare? An acoustic symphony hall, and the geniuses who supplied the backline got me a Trace (despite our equipment rider). It was the worst gig horror of my life. I couldn't hear ANY bass on stage, but I was told (in great anger, by red faces, with popped veins during the break) that the whole hall sounded like there were stampeding elephants. The owners of the hall almost stopped the show. I put the Trace on a chair, faced it backwards, sat in front of it, and just about wore it like it was a set of F#$%ing headphones just to be able finish the set. They still said it was too loud afterwards!

    I suppose there are just some serious holes in the frequency response of a Trace amp. I suspect what's missing is exactly what you need to make a good midrange funk tone. I'd probably sum it up as "too much fundamental, virtually no overtones".

    Take your bass to a music store, and try some other amps out. You'll see we're right; it's the amp.

    No stompbox in the world is gonna put back what's missing in that Trace (sorry).
  16. I've got to second the Yamaha NE-1 parametric EQ. That thing is great. You can go from fingerstyle punch to slap-happiness just by changing the frequency. Very easy to use!

    Good setting for a band situation - "Deep 4" (The box says this is Nathan's favorite setting and I can see why.)
    Good setting for slap - "Deep 6.5"
    Good setting for harmonics - "Deep 1"
    Good setting for Geddy Lee tone - "Shallow 4"

    They are cheap and awesome.
  17. lucas vigor

    lucas vigor Banned

    Sep 2, 2004
    Orange County, Ca,
    The amp first, but a compressor is also a great slap tool.

    i would suggest light gauge roundwound strings too, preferably stainless steel...Smith 'slap bass' are good strings.

    As far as the amp, get rid of the trace and get some combo that has a 2x10 set up. If you can afford it, the workingman SWR or a Galien Kreuger (ultimate 80's slapbass brand) 2x10 would definately fix your goose!!
  18. Mud Flaps

    Mud Flaps

    Feb 3, 2003
    Norton, MA
    I compressor more than anything else, without a doubt. I can prove it too, but not right now.
  19. Simple solution use the Aphex Bass Exciter with aural enhancer, kick this pedal in to get theslap tone.