A Philosophical GAS Question (Kinda Long)

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by gmstudio99, Jun 28, 2008.

  1. gmstudio99


    Mar 11, 2000
    Cleveland, OH
    I've owned three really nice MIA P's over the years:

    1) A 96 (or so) MIA P Fretless. Yup, fretless. I think they made them for about 3-4 years or so? It was black, it was beautiful, it was like playing electrical cables against a telephone pole - a monster to struggle with and I didn't like it much, particularly after I got my 97 Jazz. (Still my #1.) I don't even remember how I got rid of it...did I sell it? Trade it? I have no idea...for all I know it could be socked away under a bed here somewhere. Good place for it.

    2) 98 MIA P Deluxe. By far the most beautiful bass I've ever owned: shoreline gold, maple neck...it was stunning to behold and to hold. However, I never cared for the active pickup system...never really got a sound that I truly cared for out of it...it served simply as backup to the aforementioned 97 MIA Jazz. Sold it to fund some other studio purchases to a dear friend in another state, where it's loved and used for tv/radio jingles daily. It's got a good life now.

    3) A 97 MIA P...regular MIA Standard. Hated the color: sunburst. I make no apologies to anyone: I just don't like sunburst. Again, it served as a gig backup to the 97 J. I traded it about a year ago for an upright bass, which I still have and play out on.

    So my other current basses are: 97 J, 98 MIM J Fretless, Sting Signature (hey, it's a P!), and a Jazz 24 (which is quickly becoming my new favorite over the 97 J).

    So I seem to be a J guy, right? Had some P's, didn't care for them, love my J's.

    So why on God's-freakin'-green-earth have I been obsessing about buying a new MIA P? Rationally, I know I don't care for them...I don't particularly enjoy the necks, or even the looks for that matter...but this is more than just temporary GAS, this has been searching and looking and calling and playing a lot of different things over the last 3-4 months.

    Is it some "completist" thing, wherein since I have a really nice J, I feel the urge to match it to a really nice P? (That's the thing, a Squier nor an MIM will do...it's the MIA-ness of it that draws me.)

    Is it because I have bass on the brain? I've been gigging a lot more than usual lately...perhaps I'm more in tune with the gear than I will be, say, when things slow down in the fall.

    Is it from just reading all these damn threads here?

    I know as soon as I buy one, I'll think "What the hell did I need this for?" You ever do that?

    I have 4 really nice gig-worthy basses...why do we all go out and buy more? Ever do ths?
  2. Jeff K

    Jeff K Supporting Member

    Jul 9, 2005
    Memphis, TN
    Well, it's never a bad thing to have a Jazz AND a P. And if you really want a P, these new MIA's make it a good time to get one.
  3. It's probably all of the above. Although, I find my G.A.S. spikes when I'm not gigging or playing in a band, 'cause I get bored. When I have gigs, I usually focus on playing one or two basses.
    I've bought so many basses I didn't need. Two already this year.
    Talkbass doesn't help, especially reading the classifieds and seeing what everyone else has.
    There is definitely something to the "completist" thing. I have a Precision with a Jazz neck, so you'd think I'd be set there.. best of both worlds, right? But, no.. some evil part of me thinks I need to get an actual Jazz and an actual Precision. Ugh.
    As for a new MIA Precision, have you played any of the '08s? They're nice. And the rolled fretboard edges make the neck feel slimmer. I know I'm not helping here..
    I've thought I was "done" a bunch of times, but G.A.S. is terminal. It may abate from time to time, but it never really goes away.
  4. I'm still not in a position where I have enough money to own multiple basses, so I can't say :)

    Regarding a P and a J, at first starting out, I though I would prefer a J because of the neck. How wrong was I. I tried on a P and I really dig the wider neck spacing. Mostly because wider necks tend to be flatter and thinner in depth, which I prefer. Narrower necks tend to be very thick in depth.

    Also, I kinda dig the thump / boomy sound of the P pickups rather than the mid range punchy of the J pickups :)
  5. gmstudio99


    Mar 11, 2000
    Cleveland, OH
    Yeah, you guys going on and on about the 08's are NOT helping. :)
  6. You've been here.


  7. Spiritfield


    Mar 2, 2004

    You know, I never thought about it much but that seems to be my problem as well.... who knew? :eek:
  8. Just go to a music store and play one a few times, then maybe you'll get over it. I think sometimes it's just something new and different that we crave.
  9. mikezimmerman

    mikezimmerman Supporting Member

    Apr 29, 2001
    Omaha, Nebraska
  10. Nedmundo

    Nedmundo Supporting Member

    Jan 7, 2005
    This is true for me as well. If I'm playing out regularly, I focus more on making sure my basses are properly set up and ready to go.

    Now, putting on the "analyst's" hat for our friend the O.P., I notice you didn't complain about the TONE of your '97 Precision, only the sunburst. And I'm with you there -- I find sunbursts really boring for the most part. And you didn't complain about the tone of your fretless, only the playability. You did complain about the tone on your Deluxe, and I'm with you there too. I had a '99, and it just didn't do the P thang like it should. So I sold it, and bought a 2004 American Series, black on black/maple. It was the right move.

    So I think, deep down, you know you need a genuine, no BS split-coil Precision in the arsenal. This is causing you tension, because you think you "must" be a J-bass guy after all those unsatisfying P-bass experiences. I think it's just you haven't found the right P-bass. So don't fight the GAS, allow it to lead you to righteousness -- American Standard Precision! :bassist:
  11. Relayer59


    Feb 23, 2007
    I think a P body with a J neck is nearly the perfect bass. Get a Warmoth J neck and slap it on a P...that's what I'm going to do very soon.
  12. gmstudio99


    Mar 11, 2000
    Cleveland, OH
    Very, very bad influence here. :) I think I may be ordering one soon...
  13. scootron


    Jul 17, 2007
    Moved to Texas
    I agree 100% that GAS is worst when you're not gigging. I went 6 months without buying anything when we were gigging heavily. Now that things are slow, I am consuming at an alarming rate.

    I'm a J guy too. Just added a Geddy to the herd yesterday. But I also have that MIA P over there, just because I know I will HAVE to have it at some point. In fact, I just bought a new pup for it tonight (Rio Grande Muy Grande). I hear the '08 models are wonderful, too.

    Glad I could help.
  14. Orco87


    Mar 26, 2000
    I think it may be the combination of "completist" as well as talkbass threads.

    Around here, the P bass is just crazy greatness (which if you find the right one, it really is), and with that, it makes you want to find this crazy greatness that others are raving about.

    As much as you may not need that P... you may need to fill the void. But try not to do it with something that isn't completely good for you... don't settle for a P that you find something wrong with. One glorious day you'll come across that P bass that is just for you. Just try to hold out until then. :)
  15. playibanez


    Apr 3, 2006
    i have been gasing over a p for so long. i really want that butterscotch/maple p in the classifieds to be honest.

    but i have a spector and a jazz. since i got the jazz i never play my spector. so i dont even want a bunch of basses, i would never play them. i dont know what i would do with myself if i had a nice p and a nice j. i just dropped some model j's in my jazz to fatten it up a little im liking it but it just isnt the same single coil vintagey jazz anymore. il get that p bass eventually though just searching for the right deal.
  16. I'd buy a new bass every month if I had the money and the room to keep them. It's just fun playing new instruments I guess.
  17. René_Julien


    Jun 26, 2008
    I am the opposite. I'm gassing for J-basses.
    I have a MIM fretless, and don't like playing on it.
    It's not my cup of tea I guess.
    I know if I sell it after a few month I just might buy another fretless J.

    The same with P-basses. I am gassing for one. American Standard or Highway One. But I don't need it.
    Just because some of my heroes use a P-bass, something in the back of my mind keeps telling me I'd be as good if I get a P.
  18. bh2


    Jun 16, 2008
    Oxford, UK
    My GAS will not be satisfied until I have the 'Tele' bass that I've been dreaming about since I was a teenager... (I'm 51 now!).

    Could be a 51/55 p reissue or (god forbid) a Squier p Classic Vibe, although it really has to be blonde with a white scratchplate.

    There... I feel better now!
  19. fullrangebass


    May 7, 2005
    I truly understand the situation. Go ahead and live your GAS, oops, your dream I meant ;)
  20. BassyBill

    BassyBill Still here Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 12, 2005
    West Midlands UK
    I'm a Jazz bass guy myself - but there are times when only a P will do. I wouldn't part with mine willingly, even though I usually reach for a Jazz in most situations.