A question.

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by RandomBox, Jul 16, 2013.

  1. I was at Willcutt Guitars today, and they sell brand new 2013 Rickenbacker 4003 basses. I played a MapleGlo one, and they sound amazing.

    The guy there said he can sell me one for about $1600, possibly less.

    So I have a few questions:
    1. Do you think this is a reasonable price?
    2. Do you guys think my One and a Half years of bass playing skill justifies a purchase like this?

    I did the math, and if I sell my Fender, I can afford it within 3-6 months (I don't make a lot of money)

    Update: Okay I got it wrong. With tax and warranty it's around $1899
  2. Baird6869

    Baird6869 Supporting Member

    Don't buy the warranty.

    The manufacturer warranty is generally enough for most issues. You are buying a bass, not a 70" TV.....not a lot can go wrong with a passive bass within the first few years.

    Buy the bass if it sounds, plays and more importantly... feels good to you.

  3. Thanks for the input!

    It does feel very nice, and I like the push-pull tone. Only thing off is the size of the neck, but I can get used to that.

    I just feel like I may end up shelling out a lot of money for it, and might not get that much better at bass. (I'm very into it so far, though)
  4. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    fEARful Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    Which other instruments did you try there? They usually have a big selection of Fenders at the Lexington store.
  5. 254 stringer

    254 stringer

    Apr 15, 2010
    Waco Texas
    If you look around you can get a better deal than that. Ricks come with a one year warranty on the finish and a five year warranty on everything else and it starts from manufacture date.

  6. Tried a couple other Fender P-Basses (they even had the one I have), an Epiphone Thunderbird, and a few acoustics, but none really felt all too....I don't know how to put it....right? I guess that works.

    The Rickenbacker was kinda bulky, and the neck is a bit wider than my Fender (which I get finger cramps from playing every now and then), but otherwise it felt very comfortable, and for the short time playing, I really liked the sound I could get out of it.

    I feel like I would at least get a bit better at bass before I can afford it (and the time frame gives me more time to think about it)
  7. I actually listed the price wrong. Its $1699 plus about 100 on tax. He said something about the warranty, but I must've just thought it was part of the price.
  8. I was planning on waiting to sell my Fender until I had enough for the Rickebacker (minus the money from it)
  9. You can get better deals sometimes from places like GC, MF etc, especially around holidays when they run discounts. I got mine holiday time for about 1600.00 total shipped. You have 30 days to try it out and if you don't like it send it back or bring it to a store near you if you have one. You will lose your shipping cost though. Ricks are very easy to setup and intonate contrary to popular belief, and you can get a super low action with patience if that is what you desire. The bridge design is a bit dated, and the body has no contours so you may find it digging into your arm at first until you adjust to it. But you will will probably either end up loving it or hating it! Doesn't seem to be a lot of folks on the middle ground! Good luck!
  10. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    Westchester, NY
    $1600 wasn't bad, but you can definitely gets a better price than $1800. Call or email Pick of the Ricks and Wildwood Guitars. They're the guys to buy a Ric from. I got mine at POTR, nothing but a great experience all the way around.

    As for your second question about justifying a purchase, only you can answer that. If you like it and can afford it, go for it!
  11. lug

    lug Supporting Member

    Feb 11, 2005
    League City, Tx
    Umm.....if you earned the money and didn't steal it from the corner liquor store then that's all the "justification" you need to buy what you want. Anyone who says different (or anyone who disagrees with lug) is incorrect to put it mildly.
  12. hrodbert696

    hrodbert696 Moderator Staff Member

    True, but the one the OP is talking about is one he's actually tried out in a store. I would always favor that over one bought sight-unseen online, even if it meant an extra hundred bucks.

    I would start saving money for it, maybe see if they can put it on layaway for you if you give them $100 or something now, and stop by the store to tool around with it from time to time to make sure you do indeed get used to the neck.

    The only reason cheap basses are "starter" basses is because a beginner may not stick with it, and so usually doesn't want to drop a lot of coin on an instrument that may not "take." You can learn on a $5000 Fodera as easily - probably more easily - as on a $179 Squier. But most people wouldn't want to make the investment. If this bass is worth it to you and you can afford it, go for it.
  13. lyla1953


    Jul 18, 2012
    and got a 68 4001 a year or so later...both purchased new - I never really warmed up to the Ric...

    Then 40 years later I started again with a 4003 (11) and picked up a Jbass (09) a bit later - both used ... This time I can't warm up to the Fender

    I recommend buying used, if it doesn't work out, you have a reasonable resell option that minimizes loss or maaaaaaaaaybe you can break even...
  14. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    fEARful Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    Try a few Jazzes. Ask Bob for a recommendation.
  15. I tried a few out, and they didn't feel all the comfortable to me.
  16. 1954bassman


    Jun 7, 2004
    Hickory, NC
    If you are experiencing hand issues with a narrow Fender neck, then a wider Rick neck will make it worse.

    Disclaimer: I don't have either bass in front of me, I am simply going by the OPs statement that the Rick felt wider.
  17. I do have hand issues from the Fender, but not because it's too wide, but because it's too thick. (I have the Roger Waters PBass). The Ric neck felt wider, but flatter.
  18. hrodbert696

    hrodbert696 Moderator Staff Member

    Not necessarily. Some people seem to feel more comfortable with a wider or thicker neck - their hands feel more cramped or pinched navigating a slim neck. It all depends on the individual's physiognomy and preferences.
  19. Batmensch


    Jul 4, 2010
    Media, PA.
    Yeah, I myself feel more comfortable with a wider, flatter neck. The most comfortable bass I've had recently was my SX Ursa 1 )P-bass copy) with a 1 3/4'' wide nut and a 15" radius. It was much more comfortable than my MIA Jazz and Squier VM J necks. Not that the Jazzes aren't a joy to play, just that the SX felt noticeably better to me.
    Question: What is the fretboard radius on a Ric?
  20. famousbirds


    Aug 3, 2009
    That would be enough for me not to buy it. If it doesn't feel GREAT, why not keep looking?