a RAT with enough low end?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by boilingTheDead, Oct 16, 2018.

  1. boilingTheDead


    Oct 15, 2018
    Im looking for a very (very) distorted RAT tone. If Id use the Rat as it is, id have to tweak the EQ of my amp completely crazy, which is no option because if I turn it off, I still want to have a good clean tone. The low end on a Rat is as you probably know at higher settings just…not there. But I really love these typical "in between fuzz and distortion" tones..

    So Im looking either for affordable alternatives or mods! How could I make out of my RAT2 a useable Bass distortion? I know there is a juggeraut Rat with a clean blend, any experiences?
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  3. 3rdcurve

    3rdcurve Supporting Member

    Dec 26, 2008
    Sullivan, MO
    Even with a clean blend I find fuzzes and distortions suck out too much Lowend. I would stack your rat with an inexpensive EQ pedal to run together to add in what’s missing.
  4. abarson


    Nov 6, 2003
    Santa Cruz
    Maybe move this to Effects & Pedals for more visibility?
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  5. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    MXR Bass Distortion is my choice for a Rat with good low end.
  6. beans-on-toast


    Aug 7, 2008
  7. 10cc

    10cc Inactive

    Oct 28, 2013
    Original Volt Thrower by Dunwich Amps.
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  8. kranahan

    kranahan Professional Velcro Applicator Supporting Member

    Aug 19, 2009
    San Francisco Bay Area
    I use a Whiteface Reissue Rat with an LS-2 to blend my clean signal in. It sounds amazing!
  9. Thrillhouse


    Jan 21, 2009
    Chicago, IL
    What about the Rat/Cat Tail from Fuzzrocious? It has enough low-end for me but maybe I'm in the minority on that?
  10. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    No you're not. The MXR Bass Distortion is basically a simplified Cat Tail and it's got plenty of low end.
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  11. Jolagh


    Nov 29, 2012
    Ive been using a Dunwich volt thrower for a few years now. I havent tried a cat tail from fuzzrocious so im not sure how they compare. But the volt thrower powered by 18 volts looses very little low end and it has a built in 2 band eq so you can boost the lows up and dial back the treble a bit and get a really strong low end. Ive tried lots of distortions over the years and the volt thrower is my favorite. Though they can be a little harder to come by than a fuzzrocious pedal as he doesnt build nearly as many pedals.
  12. Cheap - MXR Bass Distortion

    Fuzzrocious Cat Tail w/clean blend

    Dunwich Volt Thrower

    Earthbound Audio Iron Pig


    Rat with a blend loop pedal -ie Damnation Audio Bloop
  13. Jase The Bass

    Jase The Bass Guest

    Sep 1, 2011
    Simple mod, 2 parts. Change the input and output caps to 220nf.
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  14. 2behead


    Mar 8, 2011
    That was my first thought.
  15. JeezyMcNuggles

    JeezyMcNuggles Supporting Member

    Feb 23, 2018
    Santa Maria, CA
    I suck, but nobody really notices
    FatRat = Rat + Fat
  16. Crystalman85


    Nov 30, 2008
    Chicago, Il.
    The idiotbox blower box or the landphil might be good choices for that.
  17. Mosfed


    Apr 21, 2013
    Washington DC
    Partner - CCP Pedals
    Dunwich Volt Thrower
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  18. nilorius

    nilorius Inactive

    Oct 27, 2016
    Riga - Latvia
    You should buy a separate eq pedal just for your rat and deploy it to not influence the other pedals.
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2018
  19. TheLowDown33

    TheLowDown33 Supporting Member

    Jul 4, 2009
    SW Connecticut
    +1. A great RAT with a built in high and low EQ
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  20. Nunovsky


    Sep 4, 2004
    The Aftershock has a pretty good RAT engine and you can tweak it in the Neuro app with the awesome eq that it provides until you find it suitable to your taste, and then still blend the clean signal for better definition and tone retention.