A very strange sale

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by tjclem, Dec 6, 2005.

  1. tjclem

    tjclem Commercial User

    Jun 6, 2004
    Central Florida
    Owner and builder Clementbass
    I had a bass up on e-bay that didn't sell so I was going to re-list it. Before I did that I got an e-mail from somebody that wanted to give me my price for it off e-bay. I said sure and She said she will send a M.O. to me. I e-mailed back and told her that she was only the second woman to buy a bass from me and I asked her what kind of music she played. This is the response I got.

    "Don't be shocked....but I don't play.....yet! I actually collect guitars and other instruments and really have an interest in them when made with exotic woods. I recently bought a Bendetto Benny that was a one off build by Bob himself and was featured at the NAMM show in January. It is also spalted maple but a burlwood. It's stunning. I am going to purchase a '66 strat, 65' mustang and a '55 tele plus a '64 Fender amp from one guy for investment purposes. I just like guitars. I have a few others as well. I can strum a few chords but nothing inpressive. I am actually a drummer/percussionist. But, guitars and basses are so much prettier to look at and they sure are easier to carry around! It's the playing part I gotta get figured out!! LOL I can play the piano and people say that they are similar. Some day....hopefully you won't lose respect for me for being honest. I will mail the payment to you today. Once received please mail that lovely bass to"

    .... Her address followed.

    So I am shipping off a bass knowing it won't be played. Anybody else ever run into this?

    It sort of feels strange I like knowing my basses are being played :confused:

  2. teej

    teej Venmo @teej1986

    Aug 19, 2004
    Sheffield, AL 35660
    Buy a bass but never play it? Seems kinda... pointless? That's like buying a 13th century Ming vase and not putting flowers in it. Or owning a Monet and not standing in front of it, holding your chin, and saying "Hmmm..." while thinking deep, intellectual thoughts.
  3. fraublugher


    Nov 19, 2004
    ottawa, ontario, canada
    music school retailer
    naw it's more like sending your kids to reform school or jail .
  4. tjclem

    tjclem Commercial User

    Jun 6, 2004
    Central Florida
    Owner and builder Clementbass
    Man........ :bawl: :bawl:
  5. GrooveWarrior

    GrooveWarrior Supporting Member

    I think this is actually becoming more common. I remember reading an article some time ago that chronicled a group of investors from Chicago who had started investing in vintage instruments. I guess when the stock market started to drop, they dumped their stocks and bought a bunch of vintage instruments and their "portfolio's" have killed the stocks they once had. Interesting way to go about it.

    JJBACOOMBA Commercial User

    May 31, 2005
    San Antonio, Texas
    Lecompte Bass Owners Club Member #2
    ART IS ART!!! We all just look and interpret it each in our own way. Must be nice to have the bucks to do that. I know a guy that has a stunning Dingwall as well as an Alembic. The bass he plays for gigs is an old P bass with and added J pickup. Looks very used but sounds nice. :rollno:
  7. tjclem

    tjclem Commercial User

    Jun 6, 2004
    Central Florida
    Owner and builder Clementbass
    I had heard about this too. I understand the vintage angle but a new bass from an un-established builder?
  8. FBB Custom

    FBB Custom TalkBass Pro Commercial User

    Jan 26, 2002
    Owner: FBB Bass Works
    Speculation. Maybe you'll be the next Google of bass building.
  9. Well, don't put the good strings on! :(

    It's hard to gauge fledgling movements in collecting and speculative acquisitions. Some support artists that are now working and have something new for the market while others popularize old objects that haven't before been known to us regular folks. She may have a great eye and ear (and imagine what else ;) ) and a killer loft space that is well decorated and you'll be a part of that for a long time...I bet until one of her bass player friends comes along and likes your instrument and begs it off of her, then it'll get played. :bassist:
  10. tribal3140

    tribal3140 Inactive

    Nov 9, 2004
    near detroit...uh
    art is art. I had divinity cernunnos built for arts sake. its definately not a play ever gig with type of bass. the oracle, my ritter al lof them actually I still play my beat up 95 warwick fortress MM's I dig, ding, smack and beat the crap out of them If I hit the ritter like that I'D probably cry! :bawl:

    Todd :D
  11. nateo

    nateo Schubie Fan #1

    Mar 2, 2003
    Ottawa, Ontario
    I figure there are a couple ways to look at this, and all of them are highly complementary. First, from what she says, you can pretty much be sure that she's buying it because she likes the look. Good on you, you made a piece of art. Sure it's not going to get played, but it'll still be plenty appreciated (and cared for, no doubt). The second, and much more flattering, way to view the situation is to think of her as an investor. Look at the instruments she's buying, early Fenders. Those are worth loads just because they are from the early stages of the instrument and the company. If she's keen on buying your bass, there's a chance she thinks you might be going somewhere. Personally I'd be willing to let an instrument or two go unplayed if it meant someone thought I was really going to make it as a builder.

    It's a lot like a guy I heard about once. He went out in 1969 and bought two brand new Camaros. Then he loaded them onto a truck and parked them for life. Now (or 3 years ago, when I heard the story) he's selling them for $80k a piece (both had 0.3km on the odometers and were in absolutely perfect condition). He saw something in the design and decided to make them into an investment. Sure worked out for him, ifyou ask me. Of course, it helped that the next model year was nasty.

    To sum things up, good on you. And also, get me her phone number. A chick who plays drums and collects guitars and basses? Hot.

  12. tjclem

    tjclem Commercial User

    Jun 6, 2004
    Central Florida
    Owner and builder Clementbass
    You are right I should take it as a compliment. It just seem sort of a shame. Hopefully it will get played.

    "A chick who plays drums and collects guitars and basses? Hot."

    Yup :hyper:
  13. Frank Martin

    Frank Martin Bitten by the luthiery bug...

    Oct 8, 2001
    Budapest, Hungary, EU
    IIRC, a 7-string, gold-coloured Ritter Seal (or Jupiter?) is somewhere in a Museum of Modern Art. I don't think he minds it ;)

    It's sad that it won't be played for now, but
    1.) it's a compliment of a visually stunning instrument
    2.) if it's similar to the way those vintage-collectors had, then your bass has a good chance it will be resold later, when there's bigger demand for things like this. Then it might be played, too :bassist:
  14. teej

    teej Venmo @teej1986

    Aug 19, 2004
    Sheffield, AL 35660
    There's a Warwick Thumb 5 (neck-thru, I believe) mounted to the wall of the Lake Tahoe Hard Rock Cafe. A few instruments down, they've got a Gibson EB-2 and a Hofner Violin bass signed by Paul McCartney.
  15. JansenW


    Nov 14, 2005
    Cambridge, MA
    Just be careful of post-eBay sales as eBay will not help you if there are any problems. Many scams occur after eBay auctions expire.
  16. GrooveWarrior

    GrooveWarrior Supporting Member

    You know, I think we really need to see some pictures of this thing!!
  17. callmeMrThumbs

    callmeMrThumbs Guest

    Oct 6, 2005
    Omaha, NE
    This reminds me of the way Fodera guitars and Victor Wooten got started...if any of you are familiar with that story....

    Yeah, put some pictures up!

  18. if you put the bass up for sale is because you wanted to sell it and somebody actually bought it, so be happy! Personally, I don't care if they use it as a coffee table. But hey, I guess there might be some of you that are a little more sentimental than I am.
  19. tjclem

    tjclem Commercial User

    Jun 6, 2004
    Central Florida
    Owner and builder Clementbass
  20. shameandspite


    Oct 12, 2005
    Of course its art, look at it! somebody obviously got past thier blue period and is now playing around in pastels.

    BTW, whats that fingerboard, as an artist, I'd say vermillion, as a bassist, I'd say daaaang.