A workhorse with Growl, Definition and full sound...

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by pmaraziti, Jun 20, 2008.

  1. pmaraziti


    Feb 12, 2006

    I’m reviewing my bass stable and “rationalizing” it a bit. As well, I’m starting my journey to a new musical journey milestones that will take me hopefully towards playing more jazz and especially funk. I recently added a nice piece to my collection in the form of a SCD6 with walnut, here a picture.
    The tone of this bass is growly but still very defined and full. It’s also such a beauty and I suffer to take it everywhere. I thought I was a “jazz bass” guy until I got the Benavente and as of then I’m having some troubles to love again my two jazz bass like basses and I’m trying to understand if I should trade them for something else.

    My problem is what is something else? I’m looking for growl but with definition and definitely a full tone, the main quality of my Benavente. You might say, I should have a twin built, but wouldn’t mind something cheaper (2000$ or less), a workhorse, and I wouldn’t mind it to be a 4 string (funky-rock gigs, mostly fingerstyle but with some slapping as well, imagine a RHCP + Jamiroquai + some James Jamerson tribute band… :D ). As always it’s difficult for me to test basses here, so some opinion to at least restrict the list of test, would be appreciated.

    Is a 4str HS Stingray maybe a good choice? With some search I could even find it used. Something else? I’m really open....even to hear that I'm looking for the impossible at that price...

    Also… if you think I can do more with a jazz, let me know! I manage to have it growling by favoring the bridge pickup which make the tone thinner and if I boost the bass and a bit of mids it gets quickly boomy loosing definition…
  2. ROON


    Aug 5, 2006
    Sydney, Australia
    Before even reading your post I was gonna say that an EBMM Stingray is the way to go. After reading the post and learning about what you play and want out of a bass, there is no doubt in my mind you need to get a Stingray! :D
  3. I mean...I guess the Stringray has some growl...but every one I have played hasn't even come CLOSE to the growl and definition of my Warwick...Get a 4 string thumb or streamer...and you'll have the growl and the full tone...and if you could get your hands on a used one, it would be very affordable
    check out this clip... http://youtube.com/watch?v=T9sT5FnLyKs
    watch his other videos for clips of his Streamer.
  4. pmaraziti


    Feb 12, 2006
    funny you write this, since a streamer 4 strings has always been on my mind since the times of stuart zender playing for Jamiroquai... believe it or not, I never managed to play one just yet!
  5. You also might want to try Spector. They have growl in spades.
  6. pmaraziti


    Feb 12, 2006
    By the way... I loved this.... --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=CGKoQv-L1iE&feature=user
  7. dj150888


    Feb 25, 2008
    Belfast, Ireland
    I can't help but detect a hint of, "the bass I play is best at everything" from this thread. Every suggestion has come from someone whos main bass apparently provides everything the OP wants. My money would be on Warwick though.
  8. Dennis098


    May 3, 2008
    stingrays have that weak g string
    or else i would be owning one.
  9. ROON


    Aug 5, 2006
    Sydney, Australia
    Mine doesn't.
  10. easy


    Mar 16, 2005
    mine doesn't either, and I've yet to play a StingRay that did. Personally, I think the weak G is a myth perpetuated by people that have poor technique (I'm not talking trash, this is just based on my experience with StingRays).

    And StingRays have growl. Get one with active EQ, and make sure to start with the EQ flat. I think maybe people that thing SRs have no growl must be rolling the EQ all the way forward on all of the knobs.

    Also, for more options, get the HS or maybe HH
  11. For a Stingray+Warwick tone, look for an old FNA(not FNA Jazzman). MM in the sweet spot, wenge/ash, slim Jazzy neck. Vicious growl. :cool:
  12. gillento


    Oct 15, 2005
    Luxembourg, Europe
    Nordstrand pickups
    Reading your description, I hear a Sadowsky Modern 24 with Nordstrand Big Singles!
    At least, that's how mine sounds to me!

    But they are not available as a 4 string (as Metros).
  13. PSPookie


    Aug 13, 2006
    Albuquerque, NM
    Find a bass with good playability that is routed for soapbars (Skyline 55/44-01, MTD Z4/5, etc.) and add a set of Nordstrand DCs and an OBP3. Presto! Growl in spades.
  14. ROON


    Aug 5, 2006
    Sydney, Australia
    I've played 4 or 5 different Stingrays and never come across it either. At one point I did think that my own SR4 had the weak G, but a change of strings resolved the problem, I just had a dead G. I also replaced the battery so that may have helped too.
  15. It depends what kind of growl you like. The Spector basses have it in the mid-bass. Warwicks in the low-bass. Also, the strings play a big factor. DR Nickel Lo-Riders have great growl and strong mids. I love 'em on my Spector 5'er.
  16. Hansel


    Jan 20, 2008
    Kitchener, Ontario
    When I was reading i was thinking stingray too,

    but I realize your looking for a lighter one?

    Try the EBMM Sterling!
  17. scottic2


    Sep 21, 2006
    New Jersey
    Could be a myth, but I have owned 2 stingrays (4 string single H, older model and a 5 string HH) that exhibited the same problem. I do not have this problem on any of my other basses. Not sure how it could be attributed to technique, do you mean that my technique leads me to play with less force on the G string? If so my technique is not failing me on any of my other basses.
    I wanted to love the Stingray basses, I tried two of them, but found the same low output issues on the G string on both, and I moved on. I would love to check out one of the new Sterlings, however.
  18. I'm a warwick guy and I'd say a warwick corvette $$. Powerful, full and growlier than a Stingray. Totally the way to go
  19. easy


    Mar 16, 2005
    yeah, and I realize how that makes me sound, but let me tell you why. When I play non EBMM basses, the G string seems ridiculously loud, like the output is much greater on the G than on the other strings. So my assumption has been that people don't play with enough force on the G string, companies like Fender compensate for defecencies in player technique by giving the G greater output, then when the player switches to EBMM and the strings all have the same output, they think that the G is too quiet.

    I will not believe in the Myth until I experience it first hand, or if my good friend who also plays StingRays experiences it.