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accugroove cabs

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by K Dubbs, Apr 15, 2002.


  1. K Dubbs

    K Dubbs Just graduated from OSU, Go Bucks!

    Mar 16, 2002
    Toledo, Ohio
    Do these things even exist yet? I'v looked all around for dealers that actually stock them. These thigns look pretty cool, but i can't seem to find one anymore. I just wanna know how ungodly expensive we can all expect them to be.
     
  2. Whappo Grande

    Whappo Grande

    Feb 9, 2002
    Santa Clara, CA.
    Manager: AccuGroove Speakers
    Yah...was up wiz dis guys? Hey wait a minute...that's me.

    Our prices are posted on our web site: http://www.accugroove.com

    We are not in a hurry to sign up dealers because we only want dealers are dedicated to really taking care of the needs of the players. (I'm a player) There are 3 great dealers you can find on our "links" page & they ship anywhere.

    I'll be happy to help you or anyone one in any way I can (but I don't do windows).

    PS: Bill "The Buddha" Dickens is here at our studio for a couple of days. We're designing him a cabinet. WOW...what a player & what a great guy!

    Mark
     
  3. LarryJ

    LarryJ banned

    Dec 12, 1999
    Encino, CA (LA)
    They post the prices for both series on their site-
    Not cheap, but from the specs and NAMM feedback & such, like a high-end product, you get what you pay for-in their case, an incredibly designed & made product.
    As far as dealers, certain to be limited to high-end shops, I assume- Give 'em a buzz, they'll direct you to where they can be heard or tried I'm sure.
     
  4. LarryJ

    LarryJ banned

    Dec 12, 1999
    Encino, CA (LA)
    "Great Minds think alike!":D
     
  5. chucko58

    chucko58

    Jan 17, 2002
    Silicon Valley, CA, USA
    I paid for all my gear myself. Well, me and MasterCard.
    These cabs are for real. Whappo Grande (Mark) has been kind enough to let me try several of them at his studio, and loaned me a Whappo Jr. to demo at Vintage Bass Trading Co (AKA Dude Central). a few weeks back.

    Please correct me if I'm out of line here, Mark, but last I heard, you were still ramping up production. So availability of these fine cabs might be limited for a while.

    Trust me, they'll be worth the wait.
     
  6. K Dubbs

    K Dubbs Just graduated from OSU, Go Bucks!

    Mar 16, 2002
    Toledo, Ohio
    oh, so the posted prices are the actual prices, not the typical "list 1200 and u can buy it actually for 800 bucks" crap then. Well, i can't say 1800 bucks for a 212 is a reasonable cost for me, so i'm outa their boat.
     
  7. LarryJ

    LarryJ banned

    Dec 12, 1999
    Encino, CA (LA)
    Well, a "reasonable" price is dependant on the product-
    There are 2x12 cabs for a few hundred, but there is a Major difference- apples & oranges-
    The "standard" cab will sound good & do the job; end of story.

    The AccuGroove brings the best quality components preceeded by some outstanding audio
    engineering resulting in a product that basically
    takes the sound of the amplified bass guitar into
    Heaven!
    They are for those who want to spend the $$ on an investment in their rig that provides the utmost performance- It's a Ferrari vs. a Ford type thang!
    BTW, I'm not an endorsee (as if!;) )...
    From everything that I've garnered, they are dedicated to making a top-level, top sounding speaker cabinet using all their mad skillz!!
    I am down for that, even if it was out of my budget!
    (So's a Ferrari, & that $5500 bass I want built, but
    as I tell my wife....I'm workin' on it honey!)
     
  8. K Dubbs

    K Dubbs Just graduated from OSU, Go Bucks!

    Mar 16, 2002
    Toledo, Ohio
    i understand your point, buddy, with your ferarri vs ford thing. That's why i said its not reasonable for me to spend that much. I'm sure those with more money and more talent find spending that kind of money to be fully justified...God bless em!
     
  9. LarryJ

    LarryJ banned

    Dec 12, 1999
    Encino, CA (LA)
    Hey! I'm drivin' a Subaru!!!
    (& playin' thru a Hartke 2.5 XL which I dig very much):D
     
  10. Whappo Grande

    Whappo Grande

    Feb 9, 2002
    Santa Clara, CA.
    Manager: AccuGroove Speakers
    If you contact our dealers, you'll find they'll be happy to work with you on pricing! They are all great guys & I mean great.

    Whappo

    http://accugroove.com
     
  11. SlimT

    SlimT

    Feb 27, 2002
    Eden Prairie, MN
    I've never had experience with two of the Accugroove dealers, but Jim, at Electic City Music, is great to work with.

    I've bought most of my high-end gear from him and he's got great service and the pricing is competitive.
     
  12. Randy,

    Just finished what everyone's been asking for...the Frequency Response & SPL. Although I just added it to our web site, I thought you might want your own copy of the update.

    Thanks for your patience!
    Mark

    Tri 112: 3-Way Cabinet Design

    What's smaller than a 2x10, larger than 1x10 & makes you cry
    Momma? It's our Full Range 1x12 cabinet. While other players
    wish they had more in their arsenal, you will with this "one
    cabinet does all" box.

    1 - 12" Woofer, 1 - 6" Mid Range with attenuator, 2 - Soft
    Textile Dome Tweeters with attenuator
    Power Rating: 350 watts RMS at 8 Ohms
    Frequency Response: 33 Hz - 18 kHz (30 Hz @-6db)
    Sensitivity: 97.6 dB SPL
    Dimensions: 21 H x 18 ¼ W x 19 ¼ D
    Weight: 55 ½ lbs.

    Tri 110: 3-Way Cabinet Design

    This ain't no wimpy 1x10. We designed ours to leave you
    feeling like you ate a full slab of baby-back ribs, nothing
    but satisfied. There are no holes here; the lows, mids &
    highs are covered like no body's business.

    1 - 10" Woofer, 1 - 6" Mid Range with attenuator, 2 - Soft
    Textile Dome Tweeters with attenuator
    Power Rating: 300 watts RMS at 8 Ohms
    Frequency Response: 34 Hz - 18 kHz (31 Hz @-6db)
    Sensitivity: 99 dB SPL
    Dimensions: 21 ¾ H x 15 ¼ W x 16 ¼ D
    Tri 208: 3-Way Cabinet Design
    This is THE Cabinet for any studio work, as well as electric
    & acoustic uprights. You can carry it with one hand, yet it
    can handle a "B" string. Simply amazing!

    2 – 8” Woofers, 1 – 6” Mid Range with attenuator, 2 – Soft
    Textile Dome Tweeters with attenuator
    Power Rating: 200 watts RMS at 4 Ohms
    Frequency Response: 35 Hz - 18 kHz (32 Hz @-6db)
    Sensitivity: 98.1 dB SPL
    Dimensions: 27 ¼”H x 14 ¼”W x 14 ¾”D
    Weight: 40¾ lbs.

    Mini Whappo: 4-Way Cabinet Design

    Can you say unbelievable? This cab is so deep & clean it
    hurts. It goes lower than the normal 2x10 & at the same time
    has more mid presence & a more developed high end. Two of
    these cabinets together are ridiculous.

    1 - 10" Woofer, 1 - 8" Mid Woofer
    1 - 6" Mid Range with attenuator, 2 - Soft Textile Dome
    Tweeters with attenuator
    Power Rating: 300 w RMS at 4 Ohms
    Frequency Response: 35 Hz - 18 kHz (31 Hz @-6db)
    Sensitivity: 101 dB SPL
    Dimensions: 30 ¾ H x 18 ¼ W x 16 ¾ D
    Weight: 61 lbs.

    Whappo Jr.: 4-Way Cabinet Design

    This is not your normal 2x12. This monster has a totally
    different 12" driver as a sub-woofer & a totally different
    12" driver as a mid-woofer. Each driver is in its own
    separate "Cabinet within a Cabinet" so they do not interfere
    with one another sonically. The result is simply amazing.

    1 - 12" Sub Woofer, 1 - 12" Mid Woofer
    1 - 6" Mid Range with attenuator, 2 - Soft Textile Dome
    Tweeters with attenuator
    Power Rating: 600 watts RMS at 4 Ohms
    Frequency Response: 39 Hz - 18 kHz (33 Hz @-6db)
    Sensitivity: 97.4 dB SPL
    Dimensions: 27 ¾ H x 24 ¾ W x 17 ¾ D
    Weight: 81 ½ lbs.

    El Whappo: 4-Way Cabinet Design

    This is the cabinet that started it all! Think of a giant
    studio monitor on steroids that’s built for bass guitar. The
    sonic spectrum and clarity are unbelievable. We have pro
    players replacing their 4x10 & 1x15 rigs & others that have
    replaced their 8x10 rigs. Huge, tight lows, crisp mids &
    sweet highs!

    1 - 15" Sub Woofer, 1 - 12" Mid Woofer,
    1 - 6" Mid Range with attenuator, 2 - Soft Textile Dome
    Tweeters with attenuator
    Power Rating: 700 watts RMS at 4 Ohms
    Frequency Response: 33 Hz - 18 kHz (29 Hz @-6db)
    Sensitivity: 98.2 dB SPL
    Dimensions: 32 ¼ H x 24 ¾ W x 18 ¼ D (w/ corners: 32 ¾ H x 24
    ¾ W x 18 ½ D)
    Weight: 93 lbs.
     
  13. Has anyone compared Accugrooves to other high-end cabs, like Euphonic Audio, Epifani, or Bergantino? I would be really interested in hearing what people have to say.
     
  14. Since these cabs just came back from the testing facility, how about publishing how the SPL was measured. These are bass cabs, so no fair measuring SPL using the standard 1,000 Hz signal.
     
  15. But, by looking at the SPLs they're actually on the low end of advertised SPLs--I'd tend to think that they are probably legit. I do have trouble thinking that an El Whappo at 98.2 dB replaces "two 410XLTs" (assuming they're referring to Edens) at 106 dB each (109 dB for a pair of them + another 30 maybe for 1,000 watts...)

    Then again, the specs are not everything--supposedly they need to be heard to be fully appreciated.
     
  16. Pre EB

    Pre EB

    Mar 15, 2002
    Denton, Tx
    How do you think they compare to the Acme 410? I know everyone is constantly harping on the Acme's not being loud enough. These seem just barely more efficient. I also wonder if the addition of another tweeter in their 3 way cabs is really going to make THAT much of a difference. The choice of speaker sizes used make sense, though, and a four way design sounds pretty cool. Too much dough for me for the El Whappo. Who's using them? Any highly visible endorsers yet?
    On another note, EA really upped the efficiency of their cabs. How did they do that and still keep an "uncolored " sound?
     
  17. Some of the guys on the Dude Pit have auditioned them at the Accugroove plant, and are very much impressed by them.

    Specs aren't everything, for sure. I'd just like to see *all* of them get published. JBL and E-V are well known for publishing their testing criteria, methodology, and frequency range used to determine sensitivity.

    For example, I could put a 8" Radio Shack driver in a cereal box, measure it at 1,000 Hz and get dynamite SPL numbers.

    But, Mark Wright (Accugroove) is a stand-up guy and I have every confidence that he doesn't pull that crap on his customers. He's put together a high-end line of cabs for the discriminating bassist.

    The Eden 4x10 has about 1.6x more cone area for moving air, and that is what makes loudness. The D410-XLT is +8dB louder than the big Accugroove and this translates into nearly twice the apparent loudness for the same input power. To be fair, the 4-ohm Accugroove would have to be compared with a 4-ohm Eden cabinet.

    98 SPL is not a bad thing. My two 1x15 are 89 SPL each, or 92 SPL for the pair. I drive them from the left channel of a PLX 3002 into 4 ohms, and I'm about out of gas for a very loud bar gig. I'm adding two more 1x15 which will get me almost up to the Acme B-4.
     
  18. fast slapper

    fast slapper

    Dec 11, 2001
    Fresno, CA
    Bgavin,why so inefficient?
     
  19. JPJ

    JPJ

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago, IL
    I put an Accugroove up against Epifani and Glock at the LAG not too long ago, and was pretty impressed. Value is another matter, though. Do a search under my name or Accugroove for my comments, etc.
     
  20. True subwoofers... -3dB at 23 Hz, and flat from 31 Hz to 100 Hz.

    And what is really funny... the last several months, I've been exclusively playing my MIM P (low E = 41 Hz).