Acme B2 or Bergantino HT210?

From my understanding of the gospel environment, lows should be of critical concern. I haven't played the Berg but I can attest that the ACMEs with that kind of power can definitely hold their own against the pianists heavy left hand.

However, depending on the stage volume level your band uses and available PA support for bass, the acme (or any 210 cab for that matte) MAY not provide enough oomph due mainly to available cone surface area.

 

ymarc,

you know my answer.

 

I've been through a half dozen preamps but I've held onto my Crest CA-6 and Acme B-4. At the moment, I'm feeding the rig with either an RBI or SWR IOD.

Riis

 

The Berg HT210 has amazingly good low end! I used it by itself at a relatively quiet rehearsal and the guitarist said he'd never heard a bass sound so big before. Handles low B very well.

I don't have enough experience with Acme to comment.

 

The Sadowsky rig they sell in Japan is basically a Berg 2/10, if that tells you anything.

 

I like the Acme - I run two Low B2s.

 

See my updated 2x10 shootout, or just check my blog.

Tom.

 

I've never used a Berg. I do own a pair of Acme's and they have a great low end. They just take alot of power to drive them.....

 

I'll just add the extra word: "...to drive them LOUD". Less power works if loud isn't important - but it usually is once drummers start hanging around. A pair of B2s is an awesome rig for gigging, and you can take just the one cab to practices and less loud/smaller gigs and enjoy huge deep clear tone. Mmmmm, juicy fatness.

Alex

 

actually, i've been using a mere Thunderfunk TFB550 into my 4 ohm B2, and the tones have been PLENTY loud against a few drummers. was actually really surprised at how loud things got w/ the clean mean TFB.

awesome pairing.

 

But, if I might add, that same TFB550 would be even louder into an 8 ohm HT210. I was rather surprised by this in my shootout, but my 8 ohm HT210 (400w version, no less!) was notably louder than my 4 ohm Low B-2 or my 4 ohm Tri 210L.

Tom.

 

I use this pairing regularly. I've never been a volume hog, but I can't imagine needing more than this for rehersals or stage volume. I only need a second B2 (and another amp) when I (very rarely) need to fill a venue with no PA support.

 

100dB@1W1m vs 96dB@2W1m (bearing in mind extra 3dB from lower impedance giving 2W rather than 1W at fixed voltage gain). Not at all surprising - the Berg should have sounded noticeably louder. Accurate ratings then.

But this one's 106dB@2W1m (again 2W not 1W due to 4 ohm). So this should be A LOT LOUDER than the Berg. More creative marketing from AccuGroove?

Alex

 

You said it...

 

+1 Lot's punchier too, I would imagine.

 

Sounds great with my Streamer 4 banger. I've heard of them being used for PA and home stereo application.

I recall Andy Lewis suggesting that the B-4s be stacked sidewise so as to align the tweeters, mid-range, and 10" drivers. I'm not sure of the rationale. "Let's ask Mr. Owl!"

Riis

 

Yes, with much stronger midrange presence/clarity.

Tom.

 

Yes. That's all I've ever played through mine.

Yes. The Acmes don't need the boundary reinforcement that less bootiful 2x10" cabs require and can thus take advantage of the improved dispersion and projection that vertically aligned speakers brings.

Alex