i am on the hunt for another fretless. i want it to be active i like the really "hot" sound they have. i have been playing fretless for about 3 years on my little cheapo yamaha rbx260f (which has surprisingly good tone) so i don't need fretmarkers on it. htey don't help that much anyways. i would like a 5 string or a 6 string but am open to suggestions. i heard a carvin 6 last night at a local theatre group doing tommy and it sounded great! but if i am going to drop that much dough on a bass it's not gonna be a carvin. any thoughts on the new tobias fretless basses? i know they aren't as good as they used to be but its woth a shot, only $699 new. but then again i am open to suggestions! Thanks guys!