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Adding a J-pickup (or other) to a Stingray

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by mgmadian, Jun 30, 2003.


  1. mgmadian

    mgmadian

    Feb 4, 2002
    Austin, TX
    I'm thinking about doing an experiment with my Stingray 5: putting in an SD Basslines Alnico pickup, and possibly add another pickup in the front position, probably a J-pickup. Anyone here ever do this, and if so, how'd it turn out?

    Greg
     
  2. marc40a

    marc40a

    Mar 20, 2002
    Boston MA
    I'd definitely put the alnico in but I wouldn't route it for the J.

    I wasn't happy w/ my 'Ray5 and went through the same thing... a few sets of PU's, hours of driving, a pickguard, and a few hundred $ later... and it still didn't sound the way I wanted it to. When it comes down to it - I wasn't really digging the bass acoustically or feel-wise.

    The J PU doesn't add a whole heck of a lot to the sound. If you think the bass generally sounds good and could be your main bass 'as-is' then keep it - maybe try a drop-in replacement PU or electronics as a slight improvement of a sound that you already like. If it doesn't work out then you still have the stock set up.

    If you're not crazy about the bass' inherent sound then sell it off (they hold their value pretty well) and get a Lakland, G&L, J bass or whatever bass you click with.

    Just my opnion.
     
  3. mgmadian

    mgmadian

    Feb 4, 2002
    Austin, TX
    Marc,

    Interesting to hear your experience... what'd you end up putting in the Ray5 in the end (before you sold it, that is)?

    I know what you mean, I'm usually opposed to modifications that involve changing the wood parts on a bass (incl routing new pickups). You just don't know how it's gonna turn out. There are great basses available with modest parts, and really mediocre basses made out top-quality parts, which leads me to conclude that it just makes more sense to see what an instrument sounds like first, rather than attempt major surgery.

    But... it's still tempting. The Ray5 generally sounds good, and I particularly like it's fingerstyle sound for recording. But I'm not nuts about its slap sound, and I'd love to get a deeper sound out of it in general... hence the thought to add a neck-position pickup.

    But... we'll see. This could be an overly-expensive experiment that's bvest avoided. Or not...
     
  4. Fran Diaz

    Fran Diaz

    Mar 28, 2002
    Santander, Spain
    Bassist
    try the SD Basslines preamp before you touch the wood of your SR. The slap contour that you can engage by pulling the volume knob can be the asnwer to the depth you're looking for in your tone,...and not only for slap, it sounds great for finger style too.

    keep groooovin'
    Fran
     
  5. marc40a

    marc40a

    Mar 20, 2002
    Boston MA
    I went through a Lane Poor MM5 double wide aperture PU and a set of Bartolini's from a Lakland 5 before I sold it. I used Lane's preamp w/ both.
     
  6. sdguyman

    sdguyman

    Jan 31, 2003
    San Diego
    If deeper sound is what you are looking for I'd go with the Bartolini replacement PU. I also own the Bassline PU for it. I swap them depending on what I'm doing. I find that the Bartonini has a warmer sound to it. The bassline has more range, and the original, well you know nothing else sounds like it.
     
  7. marc40a

    marc40a

    Mar 20, 2002
    Boston MA
    I don't think that the J really adds much depth. My opinion is that it gives the the sound a more Jazz bass like sound - the additional signal loading of the pu and the parallel wiring scheme tightens up the tone, cancels some of the harmonics and gives it more of a compressed feel on the top end.
     
  8. Dude

    Dude Commercial User

    Mar 19, 2000
    AZ
    Owner: The Dude Pit Forum (closed) Producer: School of Bass
    Talk to Ed Friedland who tried a J pickup in a MM and was not pleased at all.

    Buy a Lakland.
     
  9. If you can, check the d.c. resistance on the mm humbucker. It should be about 10 or 12k, I'm guessing. If you do decide to install a J pick up, make sure the resistance is about the same.
    a regular j single coil output is usually far less than the mm's output. If you match them they should compliment each other very well. Besides, you'll never know how good it could sound unless you try.;)
     
  10. Dude

    Dude Commercial User

    Mar 19, 2000
    AZ
    Owner: The Dude Pit Forum (closed) Producer: School of Bass
    Typical passive J's are about half by themselves or about 11k together. Maybe if you installed one of the high output bridge pickups out of a Fender Hot Rod P-Bass in it they might balance out better. There's always a blend pot or individual output trim pots like on the J-Retro preamp that would do the trick but like I said, that seems like a lot of messing around in order to get a Lakland (which would still sound better).

    Pop the Ray on the Bay and buy a Lakie 55-02 is my considered advice.
     
  11. yeah, I'm married. I get $200 a month for toys.
    Thats it. Wanna trade your "Lakie" for a mim Pbass & mim Jazz. I'll even throw in that $200
     
  12. Dude

    Dude Commercial User

    Mar 19, 2000
    AZ
    Owner: The Dude Pit Forum (closed) Producer: School of Bass
    Ummm no thanks but then again I wasn't talking to you now was I?? I was responding to the original poster of this thread. :rolleyes:
     
  13. Dude

    Dude Commercial User

    Mar 19, 2000
    AZ
    Owner: The Dude Pit Forum (closed) Producer: School of Bass
    No Prob...sorry back.
     
  14. DB5

    DB5

    Jul 3, 2001
    Austin Texas
    buy a Lakland :D
     
  15. i think your used to your axe and don't want to try other axe but you're looking for a more versatile tone?Try to replace it with both Bartolini MM and J style pick up with active Bafrtolini preamp(optional)!!! have fun..
     
  16. hujo

    hujo

    Apr 18, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Yeah, or try a Lakland, which already has all that, without routing.