Affordable five-string Thunderbird alternative

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by jacoby75, Jan 1, 2015.

  1. jacoby75

    jacoby75 Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Coldwater, MI
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    Hey guys,

    I really want a Mike Lull T5, but could never afford it. I'm wondering if there are alternatives you guys can think of. I'm looking for something that will give me that vintage, "thunderous" growly tone. Obviously a Gibson thunderbird V or Epiphone Pro or Elite, maybe, but can you think of other ideas? The thunderbird shape isn't the important part. Just the sound.

    Thanks
     
  2. jacoby75

    jacoby75 Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Coldwater, MI
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    I may have answered my own question: Gibson EB-5?
     
  3. Cataldo basses.

    From what I understand they are built amazingly well. I use the thunderbucker pickups in my thunderbird and they nail the 66 tbird tone.

    IMO the eb5 sounds nothing like a thunderbird
     
  4. jacoby75

    jacoby75 Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Coldwater, MI
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    That's awesome! Looks perfect. Thanks.
     
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  5. Furious_Man77

    Furious_Man77 Low frequencies since 1997

    Jul 5, 2010
    Indiana
    The Lulls come up used from time to time, I have an average of $2,000 into the two I have.
     
  6. jacoby75

    jacoby75 Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Coldwater, MI
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    Cataldo's stuff looks pretty sweet. The Jaebird looks really, really great. Maybe even the non-reverse. There's a pretty sketchy review of a jaebird online though, and not a whole lot of other positive reviews out there, which makes me nervous. Especially for the price.
     
  7. Gougedeye

    Gougedeye Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    Central Washington
    I don't mean to be a dick, but it says in your profile that you are a Mike Lull endorsing artist. Do you actually get anything from him? What is the use of an endorsement, if you don't see any benefit?

    As to Cataldo, there are a couple of users here on TB, who will give you an honest opinion. Check the Thunderbird thread. I have a 2000 Gibson Thunderbird Studio V. I got mine for $800. After a bit of upgrading this thing kills it! They come up every so often, but you gotta jump because they don't last.

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  8. jacoby75

    jacoby75 Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Coldwater, MI
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    On a side note: I am a Lull endorsing artist, but I don't play out full-time anymore, so I guess technically I might not be. I haven't spoken with them about it. They offered me a discount, but even with the discount I can't afford one right now, and I can't justify spending that much money on a bass when I'm not making any money playing out anymore, just playing in church and some random cover bands when I have the chance.
     
  9. hdracer

    hdracer

    Feb 15, 2009
    Elk River, MN.
    $800 is a great price on a Studio V. How long ago was that? I have seen them selling for a lot more recently.
    But even at the price they are selling for (if you can find one) they are a lot less than a Lull.
     
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  10. Gougedeye

    Gougedeye Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    Central Washington
    $800 is a great price on a Studio V. How long ago was that? I have seen them selling for a lot more recently.
    But even at the price they are selling for (if you can find one) they are a lot less than a Lull.

    I got my Thunderbird in 2010, I think. I thought $800 was a great deal, as well. It is a high-miler, however. I've not seen one for less than $1500 since I got mine. I've been offered $1500 or more on several occasions, but have passed. Since, I've added Thunderbucker Ranch '66 5 string pickups and an Aguilar OBP-1 preamp. It still retains the signature T-Bird sound, but I can dial up some pretty cool sounds with a twist of a knob.
     
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  11. jacoby75

    jacoby75 Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Coldwater, MI
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    What about an Epiphone Thunderbird Pro V? I know, it's an Epiphone, but it might cure my Thunderbird GAS on a budget.
     
  12. jacoby75

    jacoby75 Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Coldwater, MI
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    Nevermind. I just read that it has terrible neck dive issues. Probably a dealbreaker. Sure sounds good though from what I've heard on youtube.
     
  13. GBassNorth

    GBassNorth Supporting Member

    Dec 23, 2006
    SoCal
    How much are you looking to spend? Is used an option?
     
  14. Toptube

    Toptube

    Feb 9, 2009
    find five string bass which feels great to play and then insert thunderbucker ranch 5 string pickups here
     
  15. jacoby75

    jacoby75 Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Coldwater, MI
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    Probably around $1,000. It depends on how much I get for my birthday (if anything).

    That's a good idea. Maybe I could get a 5-String P bass and have somebody rout it for a couple of Thunderbucker pickups. That could be sweet. Similar to the Lull JT5 or P5. Hmmmm.
     
  16. jacoby75

    jacoby75 Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Coldwater, MI
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    At the same time, though, by the time I buy a bass, buy the pickups, and pay someone to route it out for me and assemble it, I might as well just buy a five-string fenderbird from Cataldo.
     
  17. GBassNorth

    GBassNorth Supporting Member

    Dec 23, 2006
    SoCal
    I have both a 50th anniversary Thunderbird and a Spector Rex5 Pro. They sound very similar and the Rex does have the Tbird type shape as well. From a sound standpoint, the Rex sounds slightly fuller/richer and has hotter pickups but so far I've been able to easily adjust the Rex to sound like the Tbird. Both can go from deep dub to glassy sheen or from creamy smooth to full on growl with a twist of the tone and pickup knobs. My Tbird is a 4 string and the Rex is a fiver so the Rex weighs more but I suspect if they were both 5 string basses they would be within a pound of each other. My bird doesn't neck dive at all, the Rex likes to balance at around a 2:00 position but its not much of a diver.

    I just got my 50th anniversary TBird a few weeks ago for about $1200 in mint condition. So there are plenty of bird options out there if you can go used. If you can't find a bird you like in your price range I'd suggest picking up a used Spector Rex 5 Pro for about $600. For that price you get a relatively thin lightening fast neck, 3 ply maple neck through, solid maple body wings, EMG HZ pickups, EMG BT preamp, impeccable build quality and the best customer service in the industry.

    Here's a pic of each one...
    Tbird in Gold Bullion finish
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    Rex 5 Pro in Holoflash finish
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  18. I would look on the thunderbird club forum here for what you wanna hear. The whole shop seems to have skyrocketed in the past two years with better pickups and hardware.
     
  19. jacoby75

    jacoby75 Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Coldwater, MI
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    Rex 5 is certainly an option. I wonder if I could even take something like a warwick rockbass streamer and drop a couple of thunderbuck pickups on there.
     
  20. cyclopsbookworm

    cyclopsbookworm Mutant Werewolf Supporting Member

    Nov 13, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    ^ FWIW, I prefer the Warwick Streamer STD basses. A bit older, and German made. You can usually find one for not much more than a rockbass. 5'ers are a bit harder to come by though, but if you can find one for under $600 it's a better bass.