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age: should I care?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Josh Ryan, Oct 8, 2001.


  1. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    I am considering joining a band (if they'll have me) where the members are about eighteen. I'm twenty eight. Any thoughts? Things to watch for?
     
  2. the only thing that matters is if they are on par with you musically and you all hook up and click well. age is all in the mind man.
     
  3. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    That's the way I am thinking of it. I'm just looking for tips/stories etc. Things I might not have thought of.
     
  4. HeavyDuty

    HeavyDuty Supporting Curmudgeon Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Jun 26, 2000
    Suburban Chicago, IL
    You may be expected to buy the beer and pick up the women!
     
  5. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    They are 18, they may have a slightly different idea of dedication and work ethic than a 28 year old :(

    See what you can find out about them in that regard before you get too involved.
     
  6. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    Lay off Fieldy, for one.

    As long as you know what's happening this minute in their musical world, you should fit in. A big reason so many bands are comprised of members who are close to the same age is because so many bands get formed by way of school relationships.

    With my decent-sized amp, B string, and my ability to emulate the nu metal guys on demand, (mainly for amusement), younger guys have told me they dig jamming with me. Especially because I expose them to music from back when the guitarists knew how to get it on.
     
  7. Bass Guitar

    Bass Guitar Supporting Member

    Aug 13, 2001
    Age doesn't matter.

    What matters is whether you fit into the band as a musician - whether they are at the same level of musicianship as you are, whether they have the same commitment, whether you have the same goals and direction. That's what matters.
     
  8. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    Good points all, Rickbass1, they are more a hardcore band? I think? I told them about my style a bit and they seemed cool with it. We can certainly find some common ground. (I'll not even bring up Mr. Feildy)!! I think if they are 1)good 2)not jerks 3)like what I'm doing it should be OK.

    HeavyDuty- I'll make it a point of pride with them that they get their own beer and women!!:D:D
    I'm not a pimp.


    (put's on giant white furry hat and get's into Olds toronado with curb feelers)
     
  9. Hategear

    Hategear Workin' hard at hardly workin'.

    Apr 6, 2001
    Appleton, Swissconsin
    Lots of bar owners don't want underagers in their bar, whether they're with the band or not. Also, you may have more "educated" tastes than the younger members of your band, making song selections kinda difficult at times. At one time, I was the youngest member of a band and all the older guys would treat me like sh*t -- talk down to me, make fun of me, blow off my opinions and ideas, criticize my original ideas, etc. I don't know if it was because of my age or not, but it became very difficult to work with them. If these younger peeps deserve your respect, give it to 'em. Also, help them out when they need help and encourage them when they do something right. All in all, if you all get along and enjoy what you're doing together, no one needs to know about the age differences but you and your fellow bandmates!
     
  10. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    good point on the bar thing, I'll keep it in mind. Yeah, I'll check them out, I need to do something, I feel like Jazzbo described feeling in his Party's over thread.
     
  11. Gabu

    Gabu

    Jan 2, 2001
    Lake Elsinore, CA
    I had 3 drummers that were teenagers. Every one of them punked out within a month.

    Watch the commitment levels.

    Also look out for money issues. YOu probably are much better off than them financially. Be careful how much money you are putting into the band

    Be careful of inter-band fighting. These guys may be still boys to some degree. No one becomes an adult by age. Be aware that you may end up a referee on more than one occasion.

    Girls... These guys may have seen boobies, like once. That was probably in a magazine or video. So watch for girl problems.

    Umm... that's all I can think of. You might need to give them shaving tips someday... ;)

    Good luck!! :D
     
  12. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    Thanks, I will proceed with caution.
     
  13. jazzbo

    jazzbo

    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    Be careful if you're asked to play "eighteenth" notes. ;)
     
  14. *ToNeS*

    *ToNeS*

    Jan 12, 2001
    Sydney AU
    one thing you might want to be wary about is "sticking out", to a certain degree. you've got ten years on these guys, be mindful of "grandpa" statements :D if it feels uncomfortable at any point i'd say bail, but it's not like you're quite old enough to be their dad or anything.

    all in all, you just don't wanna end up being labelled "The Fonz" ... you know, the cool older guy who never hung out with any kids his own age :p
     
  15. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    You ever end a bad relationship then jump into the first thing that comes along only to find out she's an escaped mental patient who wants to eat your cats with tabasco and corn chips? I think I'm going to; take a break, work on my own material, improve my sight reading, go to a lot of shows, program, watch tech tv, and walk my dog a lot. Thanks for all the advice, I'll watch out for the "eighteenth" notes:D!!

    edit: if the right situation falls out of the sky, I won't complain.
     
  16. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    So tell us all about what happened with these guys in the last three days :)
     
  17. And this psycho chikc you dated!! That sounds like a cool story!:D

    Rock on
    Eric
     
  18. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    It wasn't those specific guys, it was another group. They wanted me to assume this "identity" they had all ready for me. Problem is, the identity sucks and the group members seemed opposed to reality for some reason.
    Eric, I can't man I'm sorry, I'd need therapy.
     
  19. BWB

    BWB

    Aug 30, 2000
    Knoxville TN
    As you get older, the 'similar age' phenomenon
    tends to be based on life experience. I'm 32, and
    the other three guys in my band are 33, 33, and 34.
    None of us had met until 6 years ago and three
    of the four of us are not native to the city we
    reside in.

    My grandfather said to me when I was a know-it-
    all 14 year old that "I know more about being your
    age than you know about being mine" - and it's
    tough to relate at age 32 to a 19 year old who
    has road fever to go out and tour the country in
    a van after I'd already done that phase at that
    age. Note: that's not a put down of 19 year olds.
    But the average 19 year old has a tough time
    conceiving of being serious about playing music
    while also being serious about owning a house,
    keeping a good job, being married and raising
    a daughter too.

    One of the things that's cool about being 32, and
    having 20 years of band experience, is that you
    simply don't run across a lot of early-30's players
    who don't have the chops. If you're still plugging
    away at 30+, most of the people you meet are
    not starting out on their instruments, and most of
    them are not motivated to play music by being
    on a star or ego trip. Much different from when
    I was in the 18-23 age range.

    Scott
     
  20. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001

    Point and Match, thanks Scott.