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Aguilar DB 680???

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by arbitrary, Apr 3, 2006.


  1. arbitrary

    arbitrary Supporting Member

    Oct 24, 2005
    Boston, MA
    I was looking for a new amp for my nv610 and I really like the Aguilar DB750, but want more watts.
    So I was thinking of pairing a ca-9 w/ and aguilar DB680.
    Is the db680 the pre from the db750?
    If not; how are they different.
    Anyone know how dirty the db680 can get?
    Thanks again
     
  2. arbitrary

    arbitrary Supporting Member

    Oct 24, 2005
    Boston, MA
    So I did a search and found some stuff out, but not everything.

    How close is this preamp to the db750?
    Now I"m using an svt4 pro with a BDDI to beef it up and give it some dirt. THe 4pro just sounds kina weak to me. So I use the bddi.
    I"m hoping to find something that"ll replace both. Sound beefy and dirty. And I don"t wanna go all tube.
    Will the bd680 give me some dirt? I have pedals and what nots to get extra od and whatnot.
     
  3. jasonbraatz

    jasonbraatz

    Oct 18, 2000
    Oakland, CA
    I would describe the DB680 as clean, yet warm. It can do beefy for sure, but it's not dirty. If you like the DB750, the discontinued DB659 is much closer.
     
  4. anyonefortennis

    anyonefortennis Supporting Member

    Jun 28, 2005
    Lincoln, NE
    Mmm... Why would you need to be louder than the DB750?

    That thing is stupid loud!

    MAybe get a 2 DB750's?
     
  5. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    Fremont, Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    The DB 659 is actually closer to the preamp section in the 750 than is the 680. The 680 offers a very wide range of usable usable tones, whereas the 659 (which to my ears does not sound exactly like the preamp in the 750) has some great clean tones (though not as wide a range of 'usable' clean tones as the 680) but the 659 (and 750) does allow you to dial in some nice grit/growl. So, the 659/CA9 would be closer to a 750 than a 680/CA9, though I do know from personal experience that the 680/CA9 does sound phenomenal, it just doesn't have the DB 750 vibe. And for the record, the 659/CA9 still sounds different to my ears from the 750.

    And I do agree that the 750 is plenty loud, though! :bassist:

    Tom.

    Tom.
     
  6. metron

    metron Supporting Member

    Sep 12, 2003
    Denver
    My 680 distorts quite a bit if the gain is cranked all the way up. Even more if you turn the bass and lower mid knobs all the way up too. Not sure how good it would sound through a ss power amp though. Could always run a distortion pedal into the fx loop.
     
  7. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    Fremont, Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    Well, I was talking a usable, musical overdrive, and to my ears, the 659 offers more of this.

    Tom.
     
  8. Pickebass

    Pickebass Supporting Member

    Jul 12, 2004
    San Antonio, TX
    I have both, and 680 and 659 and they really behave differently. I have paired both with a high powered amp such as a crest and the db 728 and to get a 750 sound you will need the 659. It definitely has more "grit" than the 680. The 680 is just awesome, based on how easy it is to edit and get usable sounds.
     
  9. metron

    metron Supporting Member

    Sep 12, 2003
    Denver
    I hear you. I was referring to the part in the question about how dirty can it get. Probably more distorted than most would care for.
     
  10. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    Fremont, Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    Good point. :smug:
     
  11. arbitrary

    arbitrary Supporting Member

    Oct 24, 2005
    Boston, MA
    Do they still make the 659?
    Any thoughts where I could fins one?
    thnkas
     
  12. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    Fremont, Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    Nope. :meh:

    ebay, TalkBass, Dudepit, bassgear.com, etc.

    Tom.
     
  13. arbitrary

    arbitrary Supporting Member

    Oct 24, 2005
    Boston, MA
    ok....I think I might understand a little better now.

    So the 680 will distort, but won't get that warm overdriven sound?
    What are the differences between the 680 and 659 again?

    It seems odd that with as much control and as many tube stages that the 680 has, that it can't get as warm and overdriven as the 659.

    Which pre do you think would do the trick for me and my nv610.

    sorry to be so umm....unsure.
    Thanks
     
  14. popinfresh

    popinfresh

    Dec 23, 2004
    Melbourne, Aus
    Dude, if you like it, just get a 750.. That thing is LOUD.
     
  15. kjones

    kjones

    Dec 4, 2004
    Maryland
    I've played the 750 outdoors without sound reinforcement.

    In a loud band environment.

    I can't imagine the situation where it doesn't have enough oomph.
     
  16. KJung

    KJung Supporting Member

    PM Sent
     
  17. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    Fremont, Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    From what you have said, above, I am thinking that you would be best served either with a DB 750 or a DB 659 with the CA9.

    Tom.
     
  18. metron

    metron Supporting Member

    Sep 12, 2003
    Denver
    Keep in mind that tube stages arent always being used. Overdrive usually comes from one or two of the gain stages. If you arent using your DI out, FX loop, or deep switch on the 680 thats probably at least 4 of those tube stages you are not using. Thats why its usually silly (but unfortunately common) when people talk about how "warm" or "tubey" a preamp is or might be based solely based on the number of tubes it has.

    About the distortion you can get from the 680, it can be a very nice usable sound if you set the gain just right. I like it best at the point where when I dig in harder and get a little clipping. I have no experience with the 659 though. Like Tom said it may be a better chioce for you.
     
  19. Arbitrary, if you haven't come across it already you should check out basstasters.com. There are clips of both the 680 and 659 as well as many other preamps.

    http://www.basstasters.com/
     
  20. arbitrary

    arbitrary Supporting Member

    Oct 24, 2005
    Boston, MA
    I checked out basstasters and listened to the 2.
    I couldn't hear much of a difference...I could be wrong. Let me know.
    But it seems like I'll be going with the 659 (if I could find one). I tried low down sound to no avail.

    I have a few other options non aguilar, I was looking at the gk 2001rb, but I'll save that for another thread? Or the 2001rb pre w/ca9.

    Thanks
     

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