Aguilar DB750 VS. GK2001RB

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by mythmaker, Jul 2, 2008.

  1. mythmaker

    mythmaker

    Jun 24, 2008
    I have a DB750 and recently played through a GK Backline 600 and almost like the tone better sad to say. I could hear how the Aguilar was more buttery but I guess it's not necessarily my sound I'm coming to realize. I did blow up his Backline head trying to get it as loud as my Aggy so I'm kinda worried about the quality of their products. The cab I'm running is an Aguilar GS412. Your thoughts would be great. Thanks
     
  2. buckminster

    buckminster Inactive

    Apr 29, 2006
    Sacramento, CA
    The backline stuff is cheaper than the main GK line. If you prefer the tone to the DB750, go for it. And you can always give me the DB750...:ninja:
     
  3. ajb

    ajb

    Mar 20, 2005
    I have an Aggy Db750 and a GK700RB. I am surprised that you like the tone of the GK Backline better than the Aggy but GK does make an excellent amp, especially for the price. If you like the backline you will definitely dig the 2001RB (which to my ears sounds close to the 700RB). But think long and hard before you sell that Aggy . . . you may end up regretting it.
     
  4. mythmaker

    mythmaker

    Jun 24, 2008
    yeah, maybe I should just get both. haha
     
  5. silky smoove

    silky smoove Supporting Member

    May 19, 2004
    Seattle, WA
    The 2001RB is my favorite head to date. Both heads offer strengths in some areas and weaknesses in others. Ultimately the 2001RB simply had less weaknesses (to me) than the DB750. Those two heads were the front-runners during my last amp purchase and the 2001RB came out on top. Honestly though, I think it would be tough to lose with either as they're both great.

    The 2001RB is light years beyond the Backline head that you played, but who knows... maybe the specific tonality of the Backline head is what you're looking for. There's nothing wrong with that, just make sure you can identify which is which before shelling out the money on a new head.
     
  6. eff-clef

    eff-clef Supporting Member

    May 6, 2007
    Baltimore,Md.
    You apparently like the GK sound since you liked the lowest priced amp of the line. The GK 2001 will blow away the Aggie 750 in terms of volume/loudness. I have played gigs with both the Aggie and with the lesser powered 1001RB, and let me tell you that Gallien-Krueger amps are loud and punchy as hell. The tone is subjective. I found the cost and weight of the Aguilar to be too much. I also bought and returned the AG500SC. I really wanted to like it but found it to be a very quick amp but was diisappointed by the tone and the volume. You could probably get a 1001RBII to be considerably louder and punchier than the Aggie 750. If you like the sound of GK(growly,punchy.and LOUD) then sell the DB750 and buy the GK2001 and you'll probably clear $700. to $1000.
     
  7. coyoteboy

    coyoteboy Bongo destroys villages and does my laundry Supporting Member

    Mar 29, 2000
    Sactomato, CA
    An inexpensive tube swap in the DB750 could move the tone much closer to your ideal tone goal. The JJ/tesla, and Tung-Sol are two such options.
     
  8. matt11

    matt11

    May 19, 2006
    Montreal
    I own both, and like them both. You can't get exactly that smooth buttery sound of the Aguilar from the 2001rb, but the gk is ultimately a more versatile, more powerful head, and it is very tweakable. If I could only keep one, I'd keep the 2001rb (and I play everything from country rock to funk to industrial hardcore). I can't remember if you said your cab was 4ohms? If you've got a 4ohm cab rated in the 1000-1200 watts range or two 8ohms totaling around 1000 watts, you can run the GK bridged at 4ohms--it's a monster.
     
  9. mbw82

    mbw82

    Jun 7, 2008
    Sadowsky, Fender, GK, Dean Markeley
    I am an endorser of the GK2001RB. It's a great amp. One of the best I've played. I really love the Aggie though and if they were giving away free amps, well then, who knows.....!

    I LOVE the headroom my 2001 gives me, and with the 4x12, it's excellent. That aguilar and 4x12 sure is impressive though....
     
  10. ErnieD

    ErnieD

    Nov 25, 2004
    Atascocita,TX.
    to try a GK or different head for tone difference and some big cash on the side. I have either a about 4 yr old, GK1001RBI, in SKB/HSC case or a 2 yrd old, GBE750 in HSC that I would trade with some cash from me for your buttery amp. I just got a Berg NV215 and everyone here keeps telling me how I need a tube amp to run thru it for that buttery goodness, so that's what I'm looking for, to sell/trade my amp(s) + cash for the SVT like yours, let me know. I know its a tough call, but you make it. :cool: Then again these negotiations should prolly be taking place in the classifieds. and not here. So pony up, lol.
     
  11. chris_nairn

    chris_nairn

    Feb 14, 2007
    I love the Aguilar amps and the GK amps both. I have neither but would like one day to own both in addition to the SWR I currently have. I agree with an earlier post about the ag500 not being so great. Perhaps for some people they are perfect? I would also do some research into Thunderfunk. Those look very appealling to me although I have not played with one. I really like some of the Mesa stuff too. In particular the Walkabout has been calling me name for some time.
     
  12. mythmaker

    mythmaker

    Jun 24, 2008
    Well I just took the plunge on the 2001RB and found a way to keep the Aggy 750 around as well as well as my 70's SVT. Looks like I'm going to be okay for now. I have an ampeg 8X10 and an Aggy GS412 and soon I'll have a mesa powerhouse vintage 4X12 to mix and match with. :)
     
  13. JanusZarate

    JanusZarate Low End Avenger Supporting Member

    Feb 21, 2006
    Boise, ID, USA
    Cool. Let me know if you have any questions about your 2001RB - I've helped lots of people out with setting theirs up, since it's the most "confusing" head GK makes. :D

    I've A/B'ed the Aguilar and GK before... and without fail, I always preferred the GK. But the Aguilar does have the advantage of simplicity - it's far more straightforward and easier to use. Plus, it does have a great tone. I don't really dig Aggie cabs, though.

    GK amps can be a bit tricky to dial in if you've never worked with the control scheme before, but once you've become familiar with it, you'll be surprised at how flexible they really can be.
     
  14. You'll be OK for now??!
    Like the Pope is a little bit religeous?
    Dude. you own 3 of the finest amps on the face of the planet!
    :D
     
  15. eff-clef

    eff-clef Supporting Member

    May 6, 2007
    Baltimore,Md.
    Dude, can you adopt me?
     
  16. mythmaker

    mythmaker

    Jun 24, 2008
    Ah yes. Well the Aguilar cab is rated 1200W @ 4 ohms and the 2001RB can be ran at 1080w @ 4 ohms mono bridged. I just am curious to what cables you need to get to make that happen going speakon in on the cab...
     
  17. mythmaker

    mythmaker

    Jun 24, 2008
    haha what do you have, a markbass or something? ;)
     
  18. playibanez

    playibanez

    Apr 3, 2006
    U.S.
    I didnt read everyones replies, but im thinking rather then shelling out the money for the GK what about getting something like the agro which will run you 300? When you want the gritty sound you tap the footswitch, and when you want that smooth buttery tone you just tap the footswitch off.

    Thing is i dont have much exp with GK so im not keen on 'the GK tone' but if you want a more gritty overdriven this might work out alot better?
     
  19. playibanez

    playibanez

    Apr 3, 2006
    U.S.
    And.... i just read the post that said you got the GK.

    You are a lucky man with the list of gear you posted! i would love an Aggie 412 + SVT.
     
  20. JanusZarate

    JanusZarate Low End Avenger Supporting Member

    Feb 21, 2006
    Boise, ID, USA
    Ah...

    Well, the bridging is done with the amp, so no special cables needed. Any ordinary 2-pin Speakon will do (wired +1/-1... most of them are, as it's a standard for speaker cables).

    In fact, the LAST thing you want to use with the 2001RB is a "bridged mode" Speakon cable... because that'll fry your gear.

    All you do is turn off the 2001RB and move the sliding switch on the back of the amp from "Dual Mono" to "Bridged". The "Right" Speakon outputs and all 1/4" outputs will be disabled, so you'll only be able to use the "Left/Bridged" Speakon outputs.

    If you'll be sticking to your current cabs, then stick to the Speakon cables you're already using. You won't be able to use HMS (the Tweeter knob and Hi-Cut Filter button on the 2001RB), either... so just stick to the usual crossover controls on the backs of your cabs.