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Aguilar GS 1-12 Power Requirements

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Larzito, Jul 11, 2003.


  1. Larzito

    Larzito

    Aug 1, 2000
    Dallas, Texas
    I'm thinking about buying a pair of the very sexy Aguilar 1-12's for a small rig. What do the rest of you guys use/recommed to power this rig with? Specifically, I don't want to buy these only to find that I need to power them with 1200 watts each just to get them to sound "normal"...I've got my Bergie stack for that:)

    I need moderately loud volume in small to medium sized bars (we're a bit loud for the size places we play...its the guitar player's fault...he say's its the drummer's fault...but we all know its the result of something our mother did to us during childhood...).
     
  2. rok51

    rok51

    Sep 2, 2002
    Crawfordville, FL
    First of all, you can believe their quoted efficiency. I A/B'd my new pair against the Peavey 410TX/115BXBW stack I have been using for nearly a decade and, honestly, I was amazed. Granted, my Peaveys are not as efficient as Eden XLTs...I knew that. I had hoped that the pair of GS112s would equal my 410TX by itself. In the 'living room test', one GS112 was just a smidgen louder than the 410TX!! In our studio for the normal LOUD rehearsal, two GS112s were every bit as loud as my 410/115 stack...powered by the same SVT III Pro. The guitar players went absolutely ape! They could not believe that so much bottom and volume came from such small enclosures. We taped last Sunday and the icing on the cake was that the Aggies were so much clearer and more defined than my old setup. Monday, I ordered another pair! Hint: they absolutely kill with my F-1X/PLX1602 setup!

    Kim
     
  3. Steve S

    Steve S

    Jul 26, 2000
    I use one with my Ashdown Mag 400 in medium sized clubs. It gives a loud and powerful sound which equals my Peavy 410 TX.
     
  4. rok51

    rok51

    Sep 2, 2002
    Crawfordville, FL
    Steve,

    Glad to know that I'm not nuts when it came to comparing the GS112 with the 410TX!

    Kim
     
  5. boku

    boku

    Jul 10, 2003
    Brunswick, Ohio
    I'm sure I'll be in the minority, but I wouldn't try using two of these on a the gig you're planning without at least 500 watts. I didn't find them to be all that efficient. They like power to deliver the goods.
     
  6. Matt Morgan

    Matt Morgan Fellow Conspirator Supporting Member

    Oct 21, 2001
    Plano, TX
    Larzito,
    If your still using the DB750 that's in your profile you should have PLENTY of juice for two GS112s. Based on the other posts concerning the GS112s here on TB and my personal experiences, you should be annoyingly loud with that set up.
    I'm playing two of them now and they feel louder than my previous SWR 4x10/2x10 set up. I'm sure that's due to the different frequency responses and such but I can barely crack the volume before they're shaking paint off the walls. I've owned a lot of cabs from a lot of manufacturers and I'd say the GS112s are seriously efficient!
    Just my thoughts.
     
  7. Steve S

    Steve S

    Jul 26, 2000
    Kim, it's the most efficient speaker that I've ever used. It's such a full and deep sound....hard to believe that it's only one 12.
     
  8. Craig Garfinkel

    Craig Garfinkel

    Aug 25, 2000
    Hartford, CT
    Endorsing Artist: Sadowsky Guitars
    I can vouch for that. You can even run a single GS112 for rehearsals. I would recommend that you stand as far away from the rig as is practical, however. The 12's tend to "throw" quite a bit. If you stand right on top of the rig you won't know how loud you are out front. And you can be very loud. :smug:
     
  9. j-raj

    j-raj Bassist: Educator/Soloist/Performer Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 14, 2003
    Atlanta, GA!
    This is great to hear, I have a GS 112 on the way!! This is to replace the Bagend 1x12... It sounds like I could get away with another one in the near future if all goes well... Gosh, that would make load-ins easier.
     
  10. boku

    boku

    Jul 10, 2003
    Brunswick, Ohio
    Congrats man - these GS112s are really happening cabs.
     
  11. j-raj

    j-raj Bassist: Educator/Soloist/Performer Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 14, 2003
    Atlanta, GA!
    Good to know~!!

    :bassist:
     
  12. afroman

    afroman

    Aug 31, 2000
    Brooklyn, NY
    It's very good to see other people enjoy the GS112's as much as I do. They're amazing little cabs. I too have a Peavey 410 TVX and one Aggie with enough power can eat the 410 alive.

    Can't wait to get a new head to make them sound even better.

    Go Aguilar 12's !
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  13. Steve S

    Steve S

    Jul 26, 2000
    I pump 200 watts into a GS112 and it sounds great. Would a 300 watt head make it sound a lot better?
     
  14. aaron f.

    aaron f.

    Oct 21, 2000
    Manitoba
    How would two of these hold up in a loud rock band with 830 watts??
     
  15. rok51

    rok51

    Sep 2, 2002
    Crawfordville, FL
    If you didn't have PA support, I'd say iffy at best. Honestly, in a LOUD rock band a pair of 410s could have problems with 'only' 830 watts. With mine, in a moderately loud blues band, 600 watts is enough at times. Other times, it's 1600 watts and PA support. But, I like the flexibility, tone and size of the Aggies. They are very efficient, have great tone and will handle lots of power. Gives one lotsa options...

    Kim
     
  16. aaron f.

    aaron f.

    Oct 21, 2000
    Manitoba
    All the bars/clubs in my city have PA's. As long as it's loud enough for stage volume and practice it's cool. I'm guessing a 210 and 112 might be the way to go. I'd love a 410 but haulin that around could get old fast plus lack of $$$.
     
  17. Emprov

    Emprov

    Mar 19, 2003
    Congrats! You'll love it! I've used mine at both 120w and 300w and it sounds great (and loud) through both.
     
  18. j-raj

    j-raj Bassist: Educator/Soloist/Performer Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 14, 2003
    Atlanta, GA!
    Actually since I posted that I had one on the way... I had to pick another one to keep the first one company on my gigs:

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    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97985

    Garfinkel, Yup they are really loud!! How's Mystery Feet? The cats in my group are all really digg'n the MF CD... You guys sound great!
     
  19. Monkey

    Monkey Supporting Member

    Mar 8, 2000
    Dayton, Ohio, USA
    I've been powering my two Aggies with a 2,000 watt Yamaha poweramp bridged, and it sounds awesome. I played last night with a reggae band with no PA support with no problem at all, and filled the club with serious dub tone. I got quite a few comments on the tone, and my fellow players were very impressed. I've yet to hear the Aggies distort (unless I set it that way with my RBI). More power seems to really make the sound bloom nicely.

    Man, I love these cabs..... So does my back.
     
  20. Hey J-RAJ: I'm looking at a single 112 cabinet to run at small gigs, and the GS112 would be my first choice. I am using an SWR 350 head (as I think you are) and a 4 ohm Eden D210XLT on smaller gigs, but it would be nice to have something a little more portable. I also have a Goliath III that I use at bigger clubs.

    Can you tell us how your rig performs through a single GS112 compared with the Triad? (Both in terms of output level and tone.) I got the Eden for a little more midrange punch than the SWR cab - does the GS112 punch? Or is it scooped (like I find my Goliath to be)? Enough power in the 350?