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Aguilar OBP-1 for that "Marcus" tone?

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by Bobbo 77', Sep 22, 2005.

  1. Bueno Cat's,
    I'm thinking really seriously about taking out the stock Fender Marcus Miller Pre amp and installing an Aguilar OBP-1. Anybody out there tried this? What's your opinion? Will it give me That "Marcus" tone, closer than the Fender Pre?? Hope to hear from the Choir!

    Bobbo 77"
  2. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    I seem to remember reading that the Marcus tone comes from a maple-necked, ash body Jazz with 70's pup placement, and that the pre's only advantage is that it gives you more tone shaping options.
  3. Unchain

    Unchain I've seen footage.

    Jun 20, 2005
    Tucson, AZ
    Although the Aggie is a great preamp, this will most certainly resault in a "Marcus" tone.

    Also, Blackbird; Bobbo 77' already mentioned he was replacing the stock preamp impliying he has a Marcus Miller signature with an Ash body, Maple neck and vintage-wound pups. Also an EBS amp would work wonders. :smug:
  4. tplyons


    Apr 6, 2003
    Madison, NJ
    Why would the Sadowsky preamp sound more like Marcus than an Aggie? Roger only installed the preamp in Miller's bass, no modifications, no nothing, and it's a Bartolini preamp.
  5. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    I understood that. I was implying that he already has all the necessary elements to get the Marcus tone and that the only advantage of the pre is that it gives more tone shaping options. :rolleyes:
  6. David Wilson

    David Wilson Administrator Staff Member Administrator Supporting Member

    Oct 14, 2002
    Lower Westchester, NY
    I'd agree with this also
  7. Unchain

    Unchain I've seen footage.

    Jun 20, 2005
    Tucson, AZ
    A few months ago in Bass Player, the one with Miller on the cover, it talks about Sadowsky modifying the preamp. I have the issue right here. But yeah. Sorry about the misinterpetation, Blackbird. I also agree that 90% of Marcus tone doesn't come from the preamp, but you must admit it does add something. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
  8. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
  9. pyrohr


    Aug 28, 2001
    Pakistani compound
    The Sadowsky preamp is based on the aggie preamp :meh:
  10. KJung

    KJung Supporting Member

    The best preamp I've found that accentuates the inherent 70's J Bass thing and really pops the Marcus Style funk is the Greengrove preamp that Chris Celinder uses. It has just the right treble frequencies to really bring out and enhance that raw single coil, 70's placement, heavy ash, maple neck, etc., etc. If you are looking for a 'Marcus' type tone... the Greengrove is literally perfect. Don't really hear that in the Sadowsky pre. I have an AG OB-3 in a bass currently... wonderful pre, but very clean with a very high treble center frequency (6.5K). If the OB-1 has the same treble frequency center... it doesn't seem like that would be a very good fit with a 70's Jazz... however, I could be wrong on that one.

    The Greengrove is the bomb!!!!! :bassist:
  11. Wilbyman


    Sep 10, 2003
    Parkersburg, WV
    KJung is correct, Greengrove is very Marcus. (I've only heard the clips from the Celinder site though!) Also, the J-Retro sounds pretty great for it. (check out edfriendland.com under equipment...Ed's 70's jazz sounds awesome with the Retro). Also, there is a Retro drop-in replacement for the Marcus. Finally, I think the Benavente pre does it pretty well.
  12. emjazz

    emjazz Supporting Member

    Feb 23, 2003
    Bronx, NY
    I've played a Celinder with the Greengrove preamp. I love it.

    I believe the frequencey point on the obp-1 is 4k.
  13. KJung

    KJung Supporting Member

    +1 on the J-Retro... if you can just drop that in... that would be the ticket. The Greengrove is awesome, but I assume it's not a drop-in.
  14. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Supporting Member

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    The EBS doesn't really have anything to do with it... any more than his SWR rig did.
  15. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Supporting Member

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md

    BP was wrong. This really should be an FAQ;)

    BTW I get that 70's Jazz sound out of one of my non-Fenders with an Aggie OBP-3. I was surprised at how much I like that preamp in a heavy Ash/ Maple necked bass.
  16. hands5


    Jan 15, 2003
    good 'ol USA/Tampa fla.
    You should be able to get that type of tone PERIOD ! regardless of any type of preamp you choose to install,and IMO if it's a copy of the 70's Ash body Jazz bass you shouldn't really need one at all.BTW you can get a american made 70's reissue Ash bodied Jazz bass from Fender,yeah it's about a grand or so,but it beats the hell out of forking over damn'er 1800.00 t0 2000.00 bucks for a true vintage one