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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Systemofadowner, Nov 24, 2002.
Which do you think makes better cabs?
You win with either, but I think the edge goes to Aguilar
by the way if it helps, I listen to metal, Metallica, Sabbath, Slayer, Pantera, Dreamtheater,Megadeth, etc.(i hate system of a down)
Decisions, decisions ...
I would give Aguilar the edge for metal, as Eden cabs don't have enough going on in the high mids to cut through the trendy super-muddy Gibson/Rectifier sound. An all-Eden rig sounds really nice with a J- or MM-style bass, though, as it fills in a lot of missing lower midrange.
The Eden and Aguilar cabinets, of pretty much all configurations, are equally loud. The Aguilar tweeter is smoother.
Ultimately, it depends on the bass and attack you're using.
This is a tuffy. Can I say something with out anyone getting mad?
Aguilar had someone reverse engineer the Eden 410 cab and built it to spec with aguilars name. They even originally used the exact tweeter, which later changed.
Can you cite your source? I hear a fairly significant difference in upper midrange response between D-410XLT and the GS410, but I'm willing to entertain the notion that it's all in my head.
I'd rather not, he is a cabinet builder himself with his own line.
Are you running the two cab's with the same head? Or are you running them with different heads/amps?
I've tried 'em both with my EBS Fafner, which is a really high-mid intensive head, and both in a music store environment at ~10 feet with the very same bass.
FWIW, if your source is a cabinet builder himself, he might just be slinging mud--the Aguilar cabs have, after all, been an enormous success, and have surely cut into his sales.
Unless your source is within Aguilar, the burden of proof is on him.
I heard the same thing ,probally originated from the same guy(mine is one generation industry gossip)
Peter, don't you run 2 GS112s? I was thinking of going that route, but I have an Ampeg SVP-BSP and Ampeg power amp...would that be good for rock/metal with a P and a 6-banger?
Trust me, Aguilar is no competition for him. He actually did this before his cab's ever came out. So there is no reason for it to have been a mud throwing contest. I guess being they paid him, he was on outside/inside
Enough about that!!!!
If you hear a difference then thats what matters. If one works better then the other go with it!!!!
I personally find this hard to believe. The Aguilar GS410 has a single slot port on the bottom. The Eden 410T is rear ported, and the 410 XLT has a top and bottom slot port. While the Eden 410XST has a single bottom slot port like the Aguilar, I believe the Aguilar debuted before the XST was available. Of course I could be totally wrong about all of this.
There are alot of Aguilar 112's out there used on the market for cheap. I think everyone ran out after bassplayers reveiw came out and bought one. Then after that the next to issue's bassplayer placed statements trying to clear up the miss Conception they had given out about the cab. So if the 112 aguilar is what you want go to bassgear or ebay, there everywhere. You might check out some slamming 112s like the epifani and bergantino. Heck is would take 2 aguilars to produce one epifani 112!!! Plus the Epifanis and clean and clear sounding and SUPER tight.
Good luck on your search and try to play them all before buying.
I know who you're talking about. You're right, Aguilar is no competition!
Actually every Ag 410 I've seen has the port on the top and bottom just like Eden. I don't however think they sound the same. Similar but I think the Eden sounds a bit better.
I own an Aguilar GS 410, and spend ALOT of time checking out the Eden 410XLT prior to purchase. They are different in size, and different in character of sound.
If someone at Aguilar reverse-engineered the Eden, they sure didn't copy what they saw . . .
Yeah I just checked the aguilar website and you're right. I must've been thinking of a different company's cab. I gotta stop drinking all that beer and save some brain cells.