This thread is an oozing of pain I had to experience yesterday- I caught a ride with a teammate to a hockey tournament about an hour or so down south, and he insisted on playingcrummy ear-piercing 80's music the whole way. I had forgotten just how terrible the bass playing and mixing in general was in 80's pop music. When I pointed out to him that a lto fo these songs could have been played by first month bassist and sound nearly as good, and that the endless waves of treble was torturing my head he replied like I was crazy. I wa slike, this stuff sounds liek it doesn't even have any bass, and he goes "So? Songs don't need anything more than quiet simple bass, and these guitars are so heavy you don't really need bass". He continued to bass the importance of the bass in general, and say hwo great guitar, etc. is. Interestingly he commented that he understands music well, but is terrible at it, and just knows he likes how the the song sounds at that some "fancier" bass would make most of the songs he was commenting on sound bad. When i pointed otu that the vast majority of RHCP fans love them as much for flea's playing as for the vocals and guitars he had no comment...I know this whole topic has been done to death, but I hadn't had someone annoy me to that degree as far as music goes for quite some time- not because he likes the stuff, but because he claimed to know alot and still downplayed the importance of bass, etc. Oh well... Any comments on the whole issue?