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Air Force One scares the crap out of NYC!

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by Papazita, Apr 27, 2009.

  1. Papazita


    Jun 27, 2008

    Well, technically not Air Force One, since you-know-who was not on board, but a Defense Department 747/VC-25, the same used to fly the President.

    The flyover by the 747, plus an accompanying F-16 escort, occured around 10am this morning over Manhattan, near the World Trade Center site; prompting a brief panic on the ground. Many offices workers panciked and fled from their buildings, fearing a repeat of 9/11.

    A US Air Force spokeswoman called the flyover part of an "aerial photo mission."

    Although the FAA says it notified city law enforcement, NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg is furious that he was not informed by the NYPD or a second unnamed agency, and says he would have tried to stop it if he had known.

    Sen. Charles Schumer strongly criticized the FAA for the incident, saying "This was a photo shoot. There was no need for surprise," Schumer said. "There was no need to scare thousands of New Yorkers who still have the vivid memory of 9/11."

    White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said he had no information on the flying photo op.

    A 747 flyover at the World Trade Center site? Who's mind-numbingly stupid idea was that? :rollno:

    From the article, it appears that the only agencies involved were the USAF and FAA.
    Yeah, great publicity move, guys!
  2. Papazita


    Jun 27, 2008
    I'll just assume the lack of comments is symbolic of the the DoD and FAA's current stance on this.
  3. NJL


    Apr 12, 2002
    San Antonio
    i thought it was in poor taste for the AF to fly that low in NYC, very poor taste.
  4. Happynoj


    Dec 5, 2006
    I like turtles.
    Anyone else think that this is a little bit funny or is it just me?
  5. Papazita


    Jun 27, 2008
    I'm usually the first to laugh at humor in poor taste, but I don't see anything funny here. Just massive stupidity and callousness.
  6. I seen this earlier.
    My thoughts were more like: WTH were they thinking!

    They needed an updated photo of Air Force One?
    Glad our tax dollars are going to good use in these hard economic times. :meh:
  7. NJL


    Apr 12, 2002
    San Antonio
    maybe the AF is downplaying something? :ninja:
  8. tplyons


    Apr 6, 2003
    Madison, NJ
    I think it's ignorant on their part to not inform the residents and workers of the city.

    I must reiterate that I knew several people killed, my girlfriend at the time's father was supposed to be there and my dad's office overlooked Ground Zero for quite some time.
  9. Papazita


    Jun 27, 2008
    "The White House apologized Monday after one of Barack Obama's presidential planes flew alarmingly low over New York city, sending residents into a panic and triggering fears of a new 9/11.

    "While federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York and New Jersey, it's clear that the mission created confusion and disruption," said Louis Caldera, director of the White House military office.

    "I apologize and take responsibility for any distress that flight caused," he said in a statement, adding that he approved the mission over New York -- described by other officials as a photo opportunity -- last week.

    "I take responsibility for that decision," he added.

    The mea culpa could be seen as extraordinary, given the infrequency of public statements by the White House military office and the bluntness of the apology over the bungle.

    Caldera described it as an "Air Force One flight over New York," although that designation is strictly used to describe the specific plane on which the US president is flying.

    The White House said Obama was not on the flight.

    The jumbo, escorted by low-flying fighter jets, roared over southern Manhattan and the Hudson River for about 30 minutes, prompting panicked New Yorkers to evacuate office buildings.

    A livid New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he had not been warned and called the lack of notice "ridiculous and poor judgment."

    Stunned office workers who failed to spot the presidential markings feared facing a repeat of the September 11, 2001, attacks in which two hijacked airliners smashed into the World Trade Center, killing almost 3,000 people."

  10. dangnewt

    dangnewt Veteran Dispenser

    Jun 6, 2003
    MetroWest Boston
    What a bad idea. :rolleyes:
    Are you telling me that no one mentioned that this might not be a good idea while they were planning it? I would not want to be the person who greenlighted this particular brainfart in spite of the pretty obvious problems.

    Even if you went the other way and gave plenty of notice - that has its own set of downsides (a target for the bad guys, a huge distraction for anyone trying to get a work done).
  11. Papazita


    Jun 27, 2008
  12. Happynoj


    Dec 5, 2006
    I like turtles.
    Ah, OK. Well I'm just going to use the excuse that I'm not American and therefore was not as bothered by 9/11 as most Americans seem to be. In fact, not really bothered at all, but that's an argument/flaming for a different day.
  13. it doesn't matter if it is Air Force One or not, they should be worried anyway! Didn't they see the movie? Harrison Ford might kick a terrorist out of it at any moment and if that guy lands on your head you're boned.
  14. I think the main problem was a break down in communication. Yeah, locals it should have been known it was going to happen.
  15. Relic

    Relic Cow are you?

    Sep 12, 2006
    Robbinsville, NJ
    pretty stupid move really.
  16. Steve


    Aug 10, 2001
    Breathtaking stupidity.

    Made even worse by the fact that there must have been literally hundreds of people in a position to question that idea before the plane took off who chose to say nothing.

    Or worse, said something and got ignored.
  17. machine gewehr

    machine gewehr

    Sep 17, 2005
    I wonder how many people pissed their pants when they saw the plane in that tower.:scowl:

    What do you know,maybe next week Japans fly over hiroshima with a B-29.That'd be out of date but still be pretty tastless.

    Some people need a lil' slapping there man.
  18. Relic

    Relic Cow are you?

    Sep 12, 2006
    Robbinsville, NJ
    It's like a really bad practical joke...
    it kind of reminds me of:

  19. Free tip: Make it your new policy that you read your post 3 times before you click "submit reply". :scowl:

    People all over the world were horrified by the events that day. The fact that you aren't "bothered" by it doesn't make you cool or interesting.

    More sociopathic, maybe.
  20. Thor

    Thor Gold Supporting Member In Memoriam



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