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All solid state amp lists...

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by CrawlingEye, Oct 19, 2001.

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  1. Oct 19, 2001 #1
    CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    I've been trying to look for a new amp, and I don't really like any tube stuff, or stuff with tube preamps.

    The all solid state companies I know:

    -Hartke (even though some models have a tube preamp with a solid state preamp)

    -Gallien Krueger

    -Peavey

    -Carvin



    I know Ampeg makes a few heads that are pure solid state also, but I think they sound relatively warm still.
    I just want something that isn't bright, but isn't warm.

    I'm just trying to get a good sum of solid state amps listed, with what you think about their sound, and what-not.

    If you could, give me your input on the equipment I mentioned. If your opinion consists of "They suck", please don't bother sharing.


    Thanks.
     
  2. Oct 19, 2001 #2
    MrFortuneCookie

    MrFortuneCookie

    Aug 23, 2000
    New York, NY
    Mesa has their recently developed M-Pulse. That's completely solid state. Also, the Ampeg heads, even those that are solid state, have preamp tubes. Hartke also gives you the option of using tube or just solid state. Personally, i think that Hartke heads are just too metallic, no warmth really. At least, that's my opinion. But look into the Mesa.
     
  3. Oct 19, 2001 #3
    CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    Eh, that's the thing. I'm not really looking for warmth. I'm just looking for like a regular amp. Not warm, not bright, just like dead in the middle. Punchy would be nice, but that's always a matter of EQing.

    How do the M-pulses sound? I went to GC the other week, but they didn't have any Mesa stuff there.

    Another company that I've wondered about is Euphonic, are they solid state?

    Thanks for the response, though. :)
     
  4. Oct 19, 2001 #4
    Freakapotamus9

    Freakapotamus9

    Jun 20, 2001
    Nebraska
    do you like SWR???
     
  5. Oct 19, 2001 #5
    MrFortuneCookie

    MrFortuneCookie

    Aug 23, 2000
    New York, NY
    The M-Pulse isn't too bad, not at all. I definately say go in any try it out. Also, SWR wouldn't be his thing because he said he doesn't want even a tube preamp.
     
  6. Oct 20, 2001 #6
    Muttluk

    Muttluk

    Jan 19, 2000
    Oakland, California
    just because you dont like a warm sound, and you want a sterileish/hi-fi sound, doesnt mean that tubes wont be able to do it for you. SWR is a very Hi-fi sound, yet it has a tube in the pre-amp, just for eq possiblities. Just because it has a preamp tube doesnt mean that its gonna make the amp sound "warm". You may also want to try out Eden. Although they have a Tube in the preamp, it doesnt mean that its SUPER WARM. its really defined as a Hi-fi amp as well. Then there is the Nemisis series (instead of the WT series) which is totally ss.
     
  7. Oct 20, 2001 #7
    Nightbass

    Nightbass

    May 1, 2001
    Seattle, WA
    The new Eden Time Traveler is exceptional. And there's no tubes in it at all. Sweet!

    Nightbass
     
  8. Oct 20, 2001 #8
    jbandbabyj

    jbandbabyj

    Mar 14, 2000
    Portland Oregon - Yes it is raining right now.
    The SWR working-man's series do not have tube pre-amps. Great "in the middle" sort of amps... punchy and regular.
     
  9. Oct 20, 2001 #9
    rickbass

    rickbass

    Nov 9, 2000
    The land of chicken fried funk
    Carvin R series heads are great bang for the buck. Tone wise, they are chameleons - veeerrrry versatile with a slew of tone shaping controls, no plastic knobs, ground lift switch, no fuses, XLR, compressor, effects loops, and they are bi-ampable.

    Mine are single-tube preamp series II's, unlike their all-SS series III. But I don't think that one little tube allows the amp to mimic the fatness or warmth of an all tube head.
     
  10. Oct 20, 2001 #10
    JimM

    JimM

    Jan 13, 2000
    Northern California
    My old Acoustic 136 was neither bright nor warm,just gobs of dry midrange.Thats why I like my Sunn 1200s,it has depth,warmth,and zing if I want it,but that's me.

    Try maybe getting a separate pre amp/power amp rack set up if you can't find what you want in an integrated unit.Maybe a cheap preamp will have it.but I'm just guessing here.
     
  11. Oct 20, 2001 #11
    CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    I don't like SWR's tone. I recently went out and retried a Workingman's head through an SWR 2x10 and SWR 4x10 (essentially a 6x10) and tried a bass 350. I didn't like either of them.

    I don't like any tubes. I don't want a warm sound. :)
     
  12. Oct 20, 2001 #12
    CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    Thanks for all the feedback so far. I'm going to hunt down a M-pulse, and a Eden.


    I've been curious about Euphonic, are they solid state or tube? I went to their site, but they didn't have much on them, just the wattage and a picture of the head(s).


    The M-Pulse looks really nice. I thought it was tube though, just out of silly assumption of Mesa making generally all tube stuff.

    I'll also take muttluk's opinion into serious consieration about the Nemesis.


    Thanks again. :)
     
  13. Oct 20, 2001 #13
    Bass18

    Bass18 Guest

    Jul 21, 2001
    Australia
    Not all, actually. The B2R and the SVT-350H have solid state and mosfet. No tubes whatsoever.
     
  14. Oct 20, 2001 #14
    MrFortuneCookie

    MrFortuneCookie

    Aug 23, 2000
    New York, NY
    Oh ok, well, i guess then you should definately take a look at those two too.
     
  15. Oct 20, 2001 #15
    DarkMazda

    DarkMazda

    Jun 3, 2000
    NJ
    Aguilar anyone? :rolleyes:
     
  16. Oct 20, 2001 #16
    MrFortuneCookie

    MrFortuneCookie

    Aug 23, 2000
    New York, NY
    I don't know, i think aguilar has a very warm sound. So i mean, that's cool with me, i like that kinda stuff and what not, but it's definately not what he's lookin for. At least that's my take on it.
     
  17. Oct 20, 2001 #17
    Angus

    Angus Supporting Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Palo Alto, CA
    I think he meant it as a joke (because they have so many tubes)!

    I don't think Eden is what you want, CE. In fact, it's the total OPPOSITE, as I've seen/heard. Regardless of which Eden amp I tried, it was always very, very warm.
     
  18. Oct 20, 2001 #18
    Tapp

    Tapp

    Aug 29, 2001
    USA, Mississippi
    If that's what you want, then get a Peavey TNT, no tube warmth there in my ears. Pretty sterile sounding to me (at least the older ones, haven't tried the new ones).

    Tapp
     
  19. Oct 20, 2001 #19
    MrFortuneCookie

    MrFortuneCookie

    Aug 23, 2000
    New York, NY
    Well, i don't there's a head version of this, though i'm sure you could remove the head from it, but the Peavey Bam 210 combo is actually an incredible combo. And it has no tubes, not even preamp tubes, plus, it's got some effects on it too. Check it out.
     
  20. Oct 20, 2001 #20
    CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania

    The Peavey BAM 210 is something I've been looking to find, no one around me seems to have it though. I currently play a Peavey Firebass head, Peavey 410TXF cabinet, and Peavey 115BXBW cabinet.

    Secondly, I don't use effects at all. So the effects in the BAM 210 are of little interest.

    I think the BAM 210 seems like an ideal route to take. It has amp modeling, which in most cases I've seen, the digital preamps (well, I've only tried digital effects, but in the same rhythm they...) always have been kinda of unnatural sounding, which is kind of what I'm looking for.

    I've tried the Ampeg. As I said, Ampeg almost always has had a warm sound.

    I thought G-K would be nice, but it seems that the 1001RB's (and the rest of that type) are relatively bright, and the 800RB's relatively warm.

    Perhaps, I should consider going the route of 800RB with a 4x10 or 8x10.


    The entire intent of this thread was to get names out and opinions on them of companies that make all solid state amps (possibilities) in the air, so I know what to look for, what to consider, and so on.

    Thanks for all the replies... Just to bring it back to notice...

    What about Euphonic?
    On their site they didn't mention much regarding their heads. Atleast, they didn't mention if it were tube/solid state. So, I have NO clue what it is, or anything on the tone. They seem to look fairly versatile as far as all the tone shaping bells and whistles go.

    Again, thanks...
     
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