Am I too Sensitive ?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Doley50, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. Doley50


    Sep 4, 2005

    I'am in a four piece cover band, drums, bass, guitar and Vox. We play top 40, dance and pop.
    This week the guitarist could not make it to practice and I suggested we get together any way, I feel that we should all be connected to what every one is doing.
    The drummer and singer responded that it would be pointless without the guitar, I feel that they don't understand the role of the bass, and I understand not many do, it took me a while to truly understand.
    I feel that if we did practice without the guitar, it would make a big difference, because they could learn to pay attention to what I'm doing and understand that I link the vocals and drums rhythmically and melodically.
    My singer actually said to me once "you just go bum bum bum on that, I don't pay attention to what you do."
    While I give her a little lead way , she is young and inexperienced, this is her first band. I'am kind if surprised at my drummers attitude, not only has he been playing for 20 + years, and he is very good,but he was obsessed with Rush and could play their whole catalogue of tunes.
    So, am I being to sensitive? I have not mentioned how I feel to the band , because while I'am the a**hole of the band , I work at not being the a**hole , so maybe I am not ! Lol!
    When things like this come up, I check myself first.
    Maybe I should just talk to my therapist about this!
  2. MonkeyBass


    Mar 22, 2009
    Denver, CO
    Most people don't understand what we do and don't appreciate us until we're gone.

    If your drummer truly doesn't understand what you do as a bass player then you need to find another drummer.

    And, I hate to be a jerk but it's "too sensitive" not "to sensitive". Sorry to be a grammar nazi. I'm a teacher, it's in my blood to make corrections.
  3. HeavyJazz

    HeavyJazz Supporting Member

    Jan 26, 2013
    Central Virginia
    If you’re embarrassed when I point out the typo in your title, you may be too sensitive.
  4. gregmon79

    gregmon79 Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2012
    Chicago IL
    I do not think that you are being unreasonable or too sensitive at all. Its not too much to ask what youre asking. At all. Every instrument plays a part in the band. My bands have the guitarist or even drummer not make it at times and we still get together to go over things. It sounds like you have some snobs in your band. Not tryin to be the "a**hole" but come on, bands are suppose to work together and communicate. If they dont they are just working against each other and the music. Im not sure if you have a lot of other options as far as joining another band or if you really like this band, but I would probably consider dropping them for some more open minded players. Thats just me though. Its unfortunate that theres is a lot of people out there still just dont get our role and what us fellow low enders do for and in a band. The people that do rock though. Good luck to you.
  5. rapidfirerob

    rapidfirerob Fusion rules!

    You should stick up for yourself more and explain the bass player's role to them. I believe the word is "leeway", not "lead way", by the way.
  6. Yes, maybe you're being sensitive. If they wanna blow off rehearsal because the gui**** can't make it then blow it off. If you feel it happens too frequently and is holding the band back then start looking for another band. Otherwise, don't sweat it. Use the time to practice on your own.
  7. MatticusMania

    MatticusMania LANA! HE REMEMBERS ME!

    Sep 10, 2008
    Pomona, SoCal
    OP is to Sensitive as HeavyJazz is to Grammar Police. :p
  8. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999
    Recently, I was playing in a Top-40/Oldies band with 2 horns-guitar-bass-drums. Our best rehearsals occurred when the guitar player couldn't make it.
    Sad, but true.
    In the '80s, I played in a Top-40/R&B band...both the guitarist & the keyboardist were marginal rhythm players. Solos = "10"; Rhythm = "3".
    The vocalists told me they took their cues from the bass.
  9. Bert Slide

    Bert Slide

    May 16, 2012
    Louisville KY
    No you're not too sensitive. It's times likes this when the chips are down and the breaks are beating the boys that I think back on the inspirational words my old football coach used to say: "CRY, BABY, CRY! Does baby want his mama? Go on, cry like the baby you are. Hey guys, come check out the big crybaby! AWWWWWW! I think he needs his blankie!..........." :bawl:
  10. Doley50


    Sep 4, 2005
    The thing is, we had a practice without the drummer and it was very productive. The guitarist was a little reluctant, because his rhythm is not that solid. I told him that was all the more reason we should get together and it helped.
    I was hoping to do the same this time without the guitar, mainly to force the singer to listen to the bass, I think she could have benefited greatly. Maybe I can convince them in the future.
    What pissed me off was the use of the word "pointless"
    I understand they may have just wanted a day off, hell I was happy to get it off also. The funny thing is, we would have work on some funk and Motown numbers that have a prominent bass line driving the whole thing.

    Sorry about the grammar! Lol!
  11. neuman


    Mar 24, 2009
    Riga, Latvia
    I agree; I am in a four piece- drummer, guitar, bass, vocalist. We have had 3 person practices when "life" gets in the way. Some productive but all were fun.

    We each have learned what we cue off of, how we rely on each other but, more importantly, we have really used these 'incomplete' group practices to identify what we need to work individually.
  12. Thor

    Thor Gold Supporting Member In Memoriam

    Try this tune-up out for size.

    Assuming your drummer counts in the song, come in on time.

    As soon as your singer starts singing, drop out. See how long it takes her to figure out what part of the pointless dum dum dum dum is missing and how well she will work without it there.

    Repeat this exercise whenever you are feeling marginalized.
  13. + 1. This works well during guitar solos, too. Especially in smaller groups with one guitar, no keys.
  14. Fat Steve

    Fat Steve The poodle bites, the poodle chews it.

    Yes. It's what makes you a musician. :bag:
  15. jumblemind

    jumblemind I also answer to Bryan Supporting Member

    Aug 27, 2011
    Brilliant. Fastest way to the point.

    FWIW, unless it's just to go over vocal harmonies, I think practices with any individual missing isn't productive. Sometimes it makes things worse. I also think wasting time with band people who don't know what a bass does is counterproductive.
  16. MatticusMania

    MatticusMania LANA! HE REMEMBERS ME!

    Sep 10, 2008
    Pomona, SoCal
    As long as I have a drummer at practive I can make it productive.

    Right now Im putting am original band together.
    We're currently a trio and will likely expand to a 4 piece if/when we find a good keys player.
    Jamming, just me and our drummer, has been uber productive.