Ameg, SWR, Eden,or Genz Benz? your opinion

id get SWR or Eden.
i wasnt that impressed with the genz benz i played out of, maybe you would like it .... i dont know. ive been to a concert ( local of course ) and one of the bass players used a hartke head with an ampeg SVT-410LF and it had great tone.

try stuff out and see what you like

 

My opinion; no flaming please.

Get Eden D410XLT if you want the best sound starting off and not want that feeling like there was another cab out there that sounded better.

Get the SWR Goliath if you want that feeling like there was another cab out there that sounded better.

Plain and simple.

*whispers*
Eden, Eden, Eden....

 

Harley,

Keep in mind that "better" is an extremely subjective adjective. I like the SWR and Ampeg cabs both better than the Eden's... and so do a lot of players like Jason Newsted, Victor Wooten, and the bass player from the Spin Doctors (just mentioned them as they're in your profile). Play several of the cabs, and find which one sounds best to you. You can't really go wrong with any of those choices though...

Good luck!

 

What's your budget? I just saw a clean D210XLT and D115XLT in a local store..

 

If you decide on Eden, the average price for a used D-410XLT is around $600, and I've seen used D-210XLT + D-115XLT stacks go for $700 and up. So both of those options should be within your budget, if you like the Edens best.

NB

 

Get A GK Backline 4-10 tey sound awesome

 

funny i've never had that feeling.....


out of every cab i've ever played, i don't like any of them more than SWR stuff. Eden, SWR, Ampeg, etc...all sound great, but SWR cabinets are a very big part of my sound. the problem is choosing between their inherant tones. based on your profile, i'd make sure you play some SWR stuff before you buy anything.

if price was no concern, i'd get a SWR Goliath Sr. 6x10 or a Henry the 8x8. i like the sound of the 8x8 a little better, but the 6x10 can handle 1k watts, and i just like the idea of running my poweramp bridged at 1000 watts


What about Aguilar cabs? i've heard nothing but rave reviews about them, and they seem much less pricey than their amps. Warwick has some neat cabs too.


jason

 

i have an swr 810... and nothing out there sounds better to me.... esp not eden..... but that's just me, and i'm not going to tell you what you like.

Keep in mind that the ampeg cabs that victor wooten uses are much different than the normal 410's and such that they sell. The main factor in ampeg's disctinctive sound is that they are in sealed cabinets, which means no ports, its airtight inside.

Because of this... they're a little lacking in the low frequency response department. Plenty of people use them though, and it doesn't seem to bother them... Also the 410 HLF has 2 speakers in a sealed cab, and 2 ported... this makes the bass response better, but then you lose some of the "ampeg" tone...

that said.... i say try out two swr 410's and see how you like em...

 

Oh, what the heck. I don't really need to say this, but ... Eden D-410XLT, of course.

 

Eden and SWR are practically the same thing. David Eden used to build amps at SWR. He parted ways and started his own company. Both amps and cabinets have many simular characteristics... I don't think one is better than the other.
Genz Benz makes some really great stuff, but I'm only familliar with some of their combo amps. Still very impressive, though.
Ampeg would be my last choice. SWR's and Edens would be MUCH more versatile. I've owned a few Ampegs and I think of them as just a couple steps above Peavey. Pretty flat tone, well constructed though.

 

There's two company's cab's that I like.

1) Peavey
2) Bag End


(Peavey more, because Bag End tends to be kind of boomy, to me, and a bit lifeless)

 

Well, a lot of people try to discount Peavey by calling them a budget company, which isn't really that true, IMHO/IME.

The deltabass is a pretty good head.
Although, it's not nearly enough wattage for any situation. I use a Firebass II 700, and I'm quite happy with mine.

Even if you don't like Peavey, give everything that's suggested a try (if possible). The more you try, the more you know.

It's funny to me, how my opinions of tone have changed...
I think it's in large due to what I didn't know was possible, and due to my ignorance regarding EQing.

The last paragraph was a bit off-base, but it's just a general comment, that could be useful.

I'll say it one last time, though...
Give everything you hear mentioned a try.

I can tell you that I'd take my Peavey over an Ampeg cab, but that doesn't say that my Peavey cab is neccessarily your ideal cab, so take the opinions with a grain of salt.


P.S. Where in central PA are you from?
Harrisburg area? If it's anywhere near me, I may be able to tell you about some dealers.

 

FYI: A new Eden D410XLT goes for around $780 around my parts. It was only 80 bucks more than the Goliath III I a/b'ed with. To my ear, the Eden had a much greater tone difference than the Goliath. Don't believe the specs on the Goliath when they say it goes down to 36 Hz or whatever low freq they put up, while the 410XLT says 50Hz. The Eden put out more sound than the Goliath on the low B. Plain and simple. Sure, the Goliath is a great cab, it can be used for many jobs, like a boat anchor.