I went back to guitar center today and decided to get the Jazz. But I am having some issues regarding the American and Mexican Jazz basses so I wanted to throw it out here and see what you all think. 1st, Thanks very much to Casanova. After chatting with him I decided to give the deluxe another go around, and I have decided that once I understood the controlls ... I could get much more out of the deluxe than the standard. I compared the MIA Jazz deluxe 4 to the MIM Jazz deluxe 5. I wanted two 5s but the American 5 is still out of stock. I played both through a Fender Bassman 25. There was indeed two jacks on that, so I must have been using the passive jack before, which caused the muddy signal. So right off the bat I noticed that the MIA is much lighter than the MIM. This is obviously advantageous as I may be playing for several hours at a time... and the pounds will begin to count. There is where the advantages seem to end. The noiseless pickup on the MIA plays at between half and two thirds the volume of the MIM pickup. If I turn the MIM pickup down to half volume or so I am sure whatever noise that it generates will be gone. So my question is, what advantage did I gain? It seems that with that pickup I just loose the ability to play louder. The action feels good on both. I am not sure if the bridge and nuts are the same or different I honestly forgot to look. They both play very well. The overall sound of the MIA seems very mellow compared to the MIM. I am not sure that I like that. I played with the tone controlls quite a bit and could not reproduce the sound that I liked on the MIM with the MIA. I don't know if it's more wood related, pickup related ... etc etc. Anyways, at this point my think is to get the MIM Jazz deluxe. Is there anything I am missing as far as the MIA is concerned? What would I get for my extra $500? Last question. This is for those that wheel and deal alot. I am wondering what I can do as far as asking for extras or discounts to maximize my savings or whatnot. I am not looking to rip them off, just to get a good deal. I am also going to buy the Fender Bassman 25. It sounded really good with the 5 active pickup once I used the proper input jack.