American vs Mexican

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by Dirk Rockbottom, Jul 10, 2013.

  1. Dirk Rockbottom

    Dirk Rockbottom

    Oct 30, 2012
    I bought a Mexican Fender Jazz bass from Guitar Center but the only way it sounds good is with the volume on the guitar turned all the way up and the tone knob turned all the way down to the lowest setting (no treble). :meh: My Luthier said that Mexican pickups are called "Tex-Mex" pickups and recommended replacing them. My question is, does the American made Fender Jazz bass have better pickups?
     
  2. jason the fox

    jason the fox Often rocks and rarely rolls.

    Jul 2, 2013
    Nova Scotia, Canada
    That could be either the pots of the pickups.

    "Tex Mex" pickups were (are?) actually a different series of pickup altogether. Not sure if they ever used them on basses. I've only ever seen them on Stratocasters. As far as I know, they were the same as standard single coils in the MIM guitars, except wound a little hotter
     
  3. mpdd

    mpdd neoconceptualist

    Mar 24, 2010
    LA
    the current american standards have the custom shop 60s and they are sweet, however the mexican standards have a pretty weak bridge too so you may consider changing that also

    mine has schaller tuners, bone nut, cs 60s pickups, and a vintage style threaded bridge now
    i'm really pleased with the the 90s mim bass, and it cost me way less than a 2013 usa jazz
     
  4. SirMjac28

    SirMjac28 Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion

    Aug 25, 2010
    The Great Midwest
    +1 I don't know where he got that from? I would have to know more information like what kind of strings you are using? your amp setup? it sounds more like an EQ problem than pickup problem also have you had the bass setup properly?
     
  5. Dirk Rockbottom

    Dirk Rockbottom

    Oct 30, 2012
    Is it possible to buy cs 60s pickups? Thanks.
     
  6. highway

    highway

    Aug 20, 2008
    they are spendy . . . your money is better spent elsewhere aka dimarzio (model j / ultra jazz / antiquity II)
     
  7. mpdd

    mpdd neoconceptualist

    Mar 24, 2010
    LA
    yeah, the pickups and the bridge were a great combo, without the bridge change the bass still sounded kind of muffled and lacked highs

    bought the pickups new at sam ash, you can buy them cheaper now that they have been around a while or maybe even get a pair used on tb in the classifieds
     
  8. Dirk Rockbottom

    Dirk Rockbottom

    Oct 30, 2012
    I have Fender nickel wounds on now - 55 g string, 110 E string. I've tried GHS pressure wounds and almost every type of D'Addario including flat wounds. Have spent over a hundred bucks on strings. My amp is a combo 15" GK with overdrive knob and 2 midrange knobs. Right now I have the overdrive at 3/4, the midranges all the way up, the bass at about 1/3 and the treble at 3/4. As soon as I move my bass tone knob slightly up, I get a very "tinny" thin sound. I've fooled with my amp settings and bass settings ad infinitum, and this is the one I'm happiest with. Thanks.
     
  9. mpdd

    mpdd neoconceptualist

    Mar 24, 2010
    LA
    check out this video

    it gives you an idea of some different pickup choices

    also jazz basses that aren't wired correctly or have cold solder joints do some pretty weird things
     
  10. DiabolusInMusic

    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism

    Tex Mex were only for guitars, I thought I saw a tele set before but they are definitely for strats.

    OP, your tech is a goof, ignore him. Though I don't advocate against replacing them, they aren't terrible and they definitely are not tex mex pickups. I would recommend you change your pickups before changing your bass, pickups cost under $100 whereas even a used MIA costs at least $700
     
  11. SirMjac28

    SirMjac28 Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion

    Aug 25, 2010
    The Great Midwest
    Like Jason said it could be a bad tone pot? I would replace that first and maybe throw in a Grease Bucket circuit I have customized many MIM's into something special I love them but the key is knowing what sound you want and not spending a ton of money on them.
     
  12. Dirk Rockbottom

    Dirk Rockbottom

    Oct 30, 2012
    Thanks for the good suggestions. What is a Grease Bucket circuit???
     
  13. mpdd

    mpdd neoconceptualist

    Mar 24, 2010
    LA
    don't know what it is, but supposedly it makes it possible for you to use lower tone settings without your bass getting boomy, which can happen with vintage basses
     
  14. invalidprotocol

    invalidprotocol Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 2008
    DFW
    A bad or disconnected cap? A MIM jazz should have plenty of warmth.

    Tons of people gig with them stock. The pickups aren't awesome but they're not bad. The tex-mex suggestion is babble.
     
  15. Batmensch

    Batmensch

    Jul 4, 2010
    Media, PA.
    Try adjusting the pickup height. It makes a big difference.
     
  16. bassbenj

    bassbenj

    Aug 11, 2009
    If the bass plays well (neck, action, frets etc.) it will be an excellent bass. (like mine). And yes the MIM pickups really are nasty. And yes changing to MIA pickups will make that bass come alive. I put SCN pickups in mine and it was like night and day. Of course as usual with Fender when something is too cool they feel obliged to discontinue it. In the day those were the pickup in the MIA Jazz. I don't know what they put in there now.

    For my taste the ultimate pickup change would be to Nordies ($$$) but I went Fender SCN because people said they were nearly as good but much cheaper. Now I don't know what the choice would be. Just figure what kind of jazz tone you want ask the guys here for opinions.

    As for the volume full up thing, to fix that you have to add a "treble bleed" capacitor on the volume pot so that it doesn't roll off highs when you turn down. It's simple. You can look up wiring online.