Ampeg 4x10 replacement driver help

Try modeling the SC10-16.

Here's what the website says:

Optimized specifically for sealed bass cabinets, the ultra-lightweight Basslite SC10 will take the weight out, but leave the performance in. Featuring a 4 oz. neodymium magnet and 2 inch voice coil, this 10 inch speaker is available in 16 and 32 ohms for your 4x10 or 8x10 rig.
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See attached docs.

 

Think he wants something like this.



If your looking for the Flatback sound. Its just 32 ohm guitar speakers
" 137" is the EIA code not model number.
Be good to hear a flatback to judge for yourself if your really chasing that sound.
A lot of mids, not very much bass, distorts pretty easily.
Full 810 breaks up pretty fast.

Just a normal Beta10 sounds better.
The 16 ohm SC10 mentioned above are available in multiple impedances
and sound very similar to the beta.

I could probably find a 80 to 75 hz type guitar speaker.
but its not feasible as a 4x10. you really need 8 to 16 of them to make guitar speakers work
like the original design.

the real powerhouses was much later when the Eminence Special Design came into play.
Heck no joke the peavey special design bass speakers have the mids and clarity.
rather have those than CTS speakers

 

16 ohm

Eminence Basslite SC10-16
Eminence Legend CA10-16
Eminence Beta 10B

if you run 4 ohm speakers series/ parallel its a 4 ohm load

Sealed =

Ampeg Factory 10" part number 86- 510- 04
Faital Pro 10FE200-4

Ported =

Eminence Deltalite II 2510-4
Faital Pro 10PR300-4

Also since you have a V4
The V4 4x12 cabinet is a good option

 

You can also get the 16 ohm 10" made for the portaflex cabinets

Ampeg part number A2035734

Ampeg A2035734 10” Woofer For PF-210HE | Full Compass Systems

 

If you build a 410 out of guitar speakers its not going to take very much power. Even a CTS loaded Ampeg 810 was only rated for about 240W. You need two of them if you're going to crank an SVT.

I don't know of any alnico 10s that are up to the task the OP is asking for.

 

Its something I thought about too.
And did a little research or investigating suitable drivers.

It always follows the same loop in my head.
Using guitar speakers would be the right way.
even better if it was a stamp steel basket with alnico.

then announce to the world this great find lol.
but it only works if you use a lot of guitar speakers
so the authentic solution wont work for a 4x10
which i was interested in doing too.

so what is a higher powered driver with similar tone curve.
well I needed original drivers to make the comparison
and likely do actual TS measurements.

my flatback is long gone and never had the chance to
get another.
So I was looking at a few good Faital drivers.
for a tone curve and power handling

And even had a feeling the Eminence Deltas
would pull it off.
I definitely wasnt being a jerk either with the peavey speakers.
Probably old scorpions would pull it off too

So my unconfirmed suspects was a actual Eminence Guitar Alnico

The Legend 1028K

Or a Delta 10A or B
or a Faital 10PR300
for a much much higher power rating.

Eventually I just started thinking more about finding
some V4 4x12 cabinet and just loading it with
Eminence S2012

another popular thing was the Jenson Mod 10 or Qs
the look is very close.
I just never liked the speakers
sound was more important

even though the Eminence Deltas isnt ideal
for a " Bass" cabinet.
Have a big feeling they would be closer to the sound
and have slightly more power handling.

 

The Jenelestemin 1016ne, the ne standing for "non-existent."

 

Reviving this thread:
I recently acquired an amped SVT810E, to run my 1968 Bassman through for lower volume playing and recording. It sounds quite good to my ears but one of the drivers is rattling and possibly broken. I was thinking about attempting to repair the crack with silicone, hot glue, or epoxy, but... Reading this thread got me thinking
what if I could replace 4 of the 8 drivers with inexpensive and possibly superior sounding 10" 32ohm guitar speakers? Could I perhaps improve my sound, save $ over the cost of buying 2 heritage 10" bass speakers? The Bassman is only 50 watts so the guitar speakers could definitely handle it and might even be a better match for the lower powered head. Im kinda new to all this tube amp / cabinet medaling so let me know what your thoughts are. I use the bassman for guitar primarily, but picked up the 8x10 for a great price just to have around for recording / rehearsing bass.
Thanks - X

 

I would prefer to drop 2-4 heritage drivers in there, but this outlay of cash isn't something I can do right now
depending on where I source them of course. Full Compass has them at $169 each for 2 plus shipping is more than I spent on the cabinet lol. And the Jensen Mod 10-50s would be $160 for a pair shipped. Something to think about I suppose

 

I just finished updating a 1977 Ampeg B-40 with Eminence SC-10 16 ohms and I couldn’t be happier. I’ll save the original cts’s and I’m recommending the same,

 

I ordered 2) MOD 10-50s for a little over $100, for the top 2 drivers, I'll add 2 ampeg heritage drivers at a later date then have 3 different tonal flavors to choose from when recording - thanks for all your input!