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Ampeg 810Es are really heavy.

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by pickles, Nov 30, 2007.

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  1. Nov 30, 2007 #1
    pickles

    pickles Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    REALLY heavy. Wow. Makes my GS412 seem like a toy. I can still tilt it into the pickup bed on my own, but it wanted to slide away from me on the casters when I did it ... so I turned it to the side (still upright), flipped it in, then put it on its back. Phew. Any tips on getting it to not slide out when hoisting it into a pickup with a camper (so you can't stand in the bed and haul it up). The sideways trick works, maybe I'll just mount extra slide rails on there.

    Anyway, I just picked up an immaculate USA made fridge for a great price. Nice new one with speakons and 1/4". I'm pretty excited ... I've been dancing around having an 810E for as long as I've been in bands, and it just felt like time. I used a couple of 410HEs with an SVT-4 Pro as a backline a couple months back and was blown away by the tone with my Lakland Joe Osborne 5. The E string in particular sounded perfect with the head totally flat other than the ultra-lo and ultra-bright switches.

    And I think its going to be necessary to set this up next to the 412 at some point. Clean aggy, dirty peg. :bassist:

    To clarify, this is simply an extremely obvious observation, not a complaint :D
     
  2. Nov 30, 2007 #2
    realdeal

    realdeal Inactive

    Dec 10, 2004
    Well, congratulations! I don't have a 'Fridge, but use 2 smaller Classic cabs.
    I've had the SVT/'Fridge combo provided as backline a few times, and it's always great knowing that I can dial it right in, the FOH knows just what to do (usually!) and that the audience is going to hear some very STRONG tone.

    Enjoy.
     
  3. Nov 30, 2007 #3
    neptoon

    neptoon

    Jul 25, 2000
    Kings Bay, GA
    i just stand in the bed of my truck, reach down, grab the towel bar and pick it up...no sweat



    edit: oops, i just saw that you can't do this sue to a camper being in the way...sorry...
     
  4. Nov 30, 2007 #4
    RBasss

    RBasss Guest

    Dec 13, 2006
    Richmond, VA
    East Coast Sales Coordinator - Crafter Guitars
    Welcome to the world of real men:bassist: - I usually end up putting mine on it's side when I load it in my Outback wagon. I usually just get one of my bandmates to help me load it in and out. It leaves the perfect amount of room for my bass head, pedalboard and 2-3 basses. Do whatever works best for you.
     
  5. Nov 30, 2007 #5
    Ryan L.

    Ryan L. Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2000
    West Fargo, ND
    I just got rid of mine, in favor of the slightly smaller and lighter SVT610HLF.
     
  6. Nov 30, 2007 #6
    southshoreconor

    southshoreconor

    Oct 30, 2007
    The Road
    Endorsing Artist: Fender Musical Instruments, SIT strings
    ah, the game of tetris we'd play after every show trying to fit my 810 into our trailer. makes a good weight to put right over the axle of your van/truck/trailer. congrats on your purchase.
     
  7. Nov 30, 2007 #7
    Crabby

    Crabby

    Dec 22, 2004
    They sure do sound good despite the size and weight, or more likely because of the size and weight! haha

    I have a really nice USA model with the diamond tolex and sparkly black grill cloth. The problem is I dont have a vehicle that the cab will fit in anymore. The cab is a prisoner at home now! Makes a hell of a practice rig!
     
  8. Nov 30, 2007 #8
    geggy spoiger

    geggy spoiger

    Aug 17, 2004
    Central Coast, Australia


    PICS!! :eek:
     
  9. Dec 1, 2007 #9
    pickles

    pickles Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    Actually I think the problem is that the skid rails are so slick compared to the carpeted aggie, so it doesn't get any grip when I push the top back across the tailgate. Maybe I'll put a little piece of tacky rubber right at the pivot point ... hmmm ....
     
  10. Dec 1, 2007 #10
    syciprider

    syciprider Inactive

    May 27, 2005
    Inland Empire
    It seems easier for me stay on the ground to tilt and push my 810 up and onto the vehicle.
     
  11. Dec 1, 2007 #11
    pickles

    pickles Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    Yea, thats what I do. Push the top back with one hand and lift the bottom with the other. With the GS, its a breeze (I was very surprised). With the 810E it still worked, but was a lot sketchier since it was slip sliding around and is just so massive.

    I just got it out of the truck, and that worked fine. I think some tack on the skid rails will help for the way in. Maybe even a little notch to set on the tailgate edge.

    Has anybody tried replacing an 810Es speakers with Neos? Seems like a great candidate since 8 drivers would really add up.
     
  12. Dec 1, 2007 #12
    Spector_Ray

    Spector_Ray

    Aug 8, 2004
    Texas
    Gold's Gym
    Hit the squat rack and incline press
     
  13. Dec 1, 2007 #13
    One Drop

    One Drop

    Oct 10, 2004
    Swiss Alps
    For the price of 8 new drivers (which might be hard to find with the necessary impedance) you can buy a Bergantino NV610- lighter, smaller, and just as loud and punchy, but the low end is tighter and there are sweeter highs, and more of them, but still retaining the basic Ampeg 8x10 fridge tone.
     
  14. Dec 1, 2007 #14
    pickles

    pickles Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    No problems there, cuz. I'm not worried about hurting myself, I'm just worried about the thing slipping and landing on its back.
     
  15. Dec 1, 2007 #15
    pickles

    pickles Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    Bah ... its just a thought. Not really planning to change anything. They have to be 32 ohms to be a direct replacement I think.

    6x10s are actually a lot harder to load in over the tailgate than an 810 or 412, since they're shorter. You have to dead lift them. With the taller cabs you just tip em over.
     
  16. Dec 1, 2007 #16
    Crabby

    Crabby

    Dec 22, 2004
    heres a few,

    EpiphoneValveJr010.gif

    EpiphoneValveJr009.gif

    I don't have any better shots of the cab at the moment. It looks really nice and is a confirmed plywood cab as opposed to OSB. Still heavy as hell.

    The Ampeg website shows a very nice looking soft cover for the 810 thats priced around $90. If i knew i was going to be taking this cab in and out of a vehicle on a regular basis, I would jump at one of these. here is the link:

    http://www.cyrk.com/ampeg/Product.a...scssid=0L7VNV57DB9J9NNCHH54MRVFUBA37FW3V5NNUB
     
  17. Dec 1, 2007 #17
    syciprider

    syciprider Inactive

    May 27, 2005
    Inland Empire
    On the 610 vs 810 tangent, it's not the tone that is the issue to me. Those two extra 10s in the latter than makes all the difference between hearing my music and getting bathed in it. No lighter, mega efficient cabs with less drivers will do it for me.
     
  18. Dec 1, 2007 #18
    BFISHER1970

    BFISHER1970

    Dec 14, 2005
    Pensacola, Florida
    Just loaded both of my 810s last night.....
    I leave the cab about 10 inches away from the tailgate, tilt back till the rails contact the tailgate, then lift the bottom slightly toward you while the top stays in the same spot. Then when the cab is horitontal, push it straight into the bed. I actually think these are one of the easiest cabs to move. BTW I have a cap on my truck also.
     
  19. Dec 1, 2007 #19
    BartmanPDX

    BartmanPDX

    Jan 21, 2005
    Probably my living room
    You've tried the NV610 right? They're really not too bad to move at all, and the sound is sooooo freakin' nice.
     
  20. Dec 1, 2007 #20
    pickles

    pickles Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    Hey that could be just the ticket for getting some "traction" against the tailgate for load in. Sweet.
     
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