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Ampeg 8x10"

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Squice, Jul 28, 2003.

  1. Jul 28, 2003 #1
    Squice

    Squice

    Jul 4, 2001
    Reykjavík, Iceland
    I was playing last weekend, And didn´t have a cab so i rented myself a old Ampeg svt(i think) 8x10" cab, And all i can say is that i where pretty impressed by this cab. I have been using both trace E/swr cabs and the ampeg was much better imo. So got a couple of questions. This cab was a 4omh cab i didn´t how many watts, so does anyone knows how many watts this cab is? And what is the price of em used? My head is Ashdown 500RC EVO that puts out about 575w, so is that enough to make this cab put out its best performance? If not is´t possible for me too hook up poweramp to my head to increase wattage output, i know that i could hook poweramp to the sub out, but that is a filtered output and i don´t want to used it as a sub, is there another way for me to do that?
     
  2. Jul 28, 2003 #2
    masaru

    masaru

    Aug 8, 2001
    Okinawa, Japan
  3. Jul 28, 2003 #3
    zoran

    zoran

    May 10, 2002
    croatia
    No problem at all. This cab is 4ohm rated and you will have all 575W available.
     
  4. Jul 28, 2003 #4
    Squice

    Squice

    Jul 4, 2001
    Reykjavík, Iceland
    Oks.. So this cab is rated 800w rms so i´m putting out my 575w I doubt that i´m able to get all of the juice out this cab with that. I´ve been reading about cabs like acmes and other that just simply love power, so the more power u got the better the cab will sound. I don´t of that´s the case with ampeg?? So what are these cabs going for ($) used?
     
  5. Jul 28, 2003 #5
    Rickenbackerman

    Rickenbackerman

    Apr 17, 2001
    Laurel MD
    I have an ABM500 and several 810's. The Ashdown / Ampeg 810 is a really good combo, and the 500 has *plenty* of power to drive an 810. Only problem is the head won't drive a 2 ohm load so you can't run two 810's. :D
     
  6. Jul 28, 2003 #6
    zoran

    zoran

    May 10, 2002
    croatia
    It's made for punch and cutting through mix. I was playing it through trace elliot 600smx head, no problem for hearing myself even without P.A.help. I doubt there is lots of used 8x10" around old Europe, but be patient, maybe one day...:D
     
  7. Jul 28, 2003 #7
    Squice

    Squice

    Jul 4, 2001
    Reykjavík, Iceland
    Yeb.. this comb.. Ashdown 500EVO/ampeg 8x10" is just great. not prob, cutting through. and i know that the ashdown is a rather loud head so it can put out alot of juice. We were playing through a 5000-6000w maby more Pa. and i had no prob hearing myself, this amp/cab had more than enough stage volume the amp volume was under 12´o clock. So i was really asking the wrong question, becouse i was wondering if would get better sound from the cab if i had more head room / power. I have more than enough volume i´m just wondering about it soundwise..
     
  8. Jul 28, 2003 #8
    Petebass

    Petebass

    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    Some speakers need a lot of watts to make them sing, others dont. The general rule is that low sensitivity (low 90's or less) drivers need more watts that higher sensitivity drivers (high 90's or more). Ampeg 8x10's would be high sensitivity, so increasing the watts wouldn't necessarily improve the sound.

    I'd keep the Ashdown. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.
     
  9. Jul 28, 2003 #9
    Squice

    Squice

    Jul 4, 2001
    Reykjavík, Iceland
    I'd keep the Ashdown. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

    What do u mean by that? I´m never going to sell that amp. i love it to death, and it isn't broken.. and don't fix it?????
     
  10. Jul 28, 2003 #10
    Petebass

    Petebass

    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    Sorry I didn't mean for you to take it literally.

    That's a common saying over here that means - if you have found a nice combination of amp speaker that delivers the volume you need and a sound you're happy with - then stick with it. Don't try and improve on something that is already working well because you're more than likely to make it worse.
     
  11. Jul 28, 2003 #11
    reasonbass

    reasonbass

    Dec 6, 2002
    Miami, Florida
    Petebass
    I have a question: Is there a big difference in volume between a cab that has a sensitivety rating of 100db, againts a cab that has a rating of 96db's?
     
  12. Jul 28, 2003 #12
    Petebass

    Petebass

    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    Assuming both speakers were rated at the same wattage and they were fed the same number of watts, in theory it would be quite a bit louder. However if the 100db driver was only rated to 100w and the 96dB speaker was rated to 900w, the figures for maximum SPL would tip in favour of the lower sensitivity driver.

    I guess there's a difference between loudness (maximum volume) and sensitivity. At 1K, there is 4db difference. I have a problem with the way sensitivity is measured. Running a 1w signal at 1,000Hz and measuring it at 1 meter is the standard practice. 1,000Hz is virtually useless when comparing drivers designed for low frequencies.

    Sensitivity is only one of the many T/S parameters and they are all interlinked to provide an overall idea of what the speaker is capable of.
     
  13. Jul 28, 2003 #13
    ampegsvtca

    ampegsvtca

    Dec 15, 2002
    Airdrie, Alberta. Canada
    Some of the older ampeg svt 810's were only rated for 220 watts. But that is tube watts rms. I wouldn't be as concerned with solid state gear.
     
  14. Jul 28, 2003 #14
    Petebass

    Petebass

    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    Back then an amp that produced 220 watts was seriously WOW!