Ampeg BA112v2 Beatle settings?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Tbig, Nov 8, 2015.

  1. Tbig

    Tbig

    Oct 10, 2015
    Hello all I'm new to this forum and playing bass. I just recently bought an Ampeg BA112v2 and was wondering if you could give me advice on settings for that "Beatles" sound? FWIW I have a Hofner Ignition Violin. Thanks for any info!
     
  2. Tbig

    Tbig

    Oct 10, 2015
    Anyone?
     
  3. High Camp

    High Camp

    Oct 3, 2013
    Netherlands
    Generally speaking, roll off some treble.
    More importantly, however, for the beatles-sound aka Paul-sound, is playing flatwound strings with a pick with a bit of palm muting.
    (At least that is what Paul McM. is doing all the time...;))
    There are some Beatle/Paul fans on the forum that can tell more about gear, settings and playing style.
     
  4. Tbig

    Tbig

    Oct 10, 2015
    Thanks for the reply. I have the flatwounds, now to roll off some treble and see what happens.
     
  5. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Inactive

    Don't obsess with getting Paul's identical tone. He still sounds like himself whatever amplifier he is using.
     
  6. Tbig

    Tbig

    Oct 10, 2015
    Oh I know I'd never come close to Paul and his sound/playing but it doesn't hurt to try :)
     
  7. danosix

    danosix

    May 30, 2012
    Yeah, I wouldn't even worry too much about the treble roll-off if you have the flatwounds most of the treble is gone - and once the band comes in the treble you hear will disappear and just contribute to a bit of note definition.
    The other thing to remember is that our ears are not the same as ears in the 1960s, so if you got a pitch perfect reproduction of his sound and the rest of the band was absolutely perfect in tone and everything else it would sound a little "dull" to our modern ears - so perfection is not the goal - approximation/simulation is the goal - give the audience's and your ears something gives the same experience as his tone would have been.
    I learned that in the Elvis tribute band - initially I was totally trying to stay to period correct tones, but in the end I realized the audiences didn't actually want a 100% authentic reproduction of the sound - they wanted what it sounded like to them in their heads - and that had adjusted with their ears to be more modern - a little faster than the originals actually were, a little more distortion (on the guitars) and a louder and more defined bass.
     
  8. Tbig

    Tbig

    Oct 10, 2015
    That makes total sense and thanks for the response. On a side note, Elvis tribute band, now that would be some fun for me!
     
  9. High Camp

    High Camp

    Oct 3, 2013
    Netherlands
    I've been in an Elvis-tributeband too, years ago.
    Great experience: love the music, great response from the audience, always!
     
  10. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Inactive

    Elvis is always around the top of the list of earnings for dead musicians. The last I heard he was #2 with $55 Million behind Michael Jackson at $140 Million. :D
     
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  11. High Camp

    High Camp

    Oct 3, 2013
    Netherlands
    IMO, there's nothing that tops Elvis and the Beatles (with Queen coming close), regarding getting and keeping the audience excited, including the non-fans.
     
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  12. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru..........

    Apr 11, 2006
    Out there!
    Is that what it takes? :woot:
     
  13. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    On a Fender or Ric yes, but Hofners are crazy dark basses amplified. I would turn the treble up to about 2:00, mids somewhere between 1:00 and 2:00, bass down to 10:00, then add a little overdrive with the Scrambler blended in with the clean sound. You might want to experiment a little bit, especially with the mids, but use that as a starting point. You can compare it to the sound of some of McCartney's soloed bass tracks on Youtube.

    Of course, in no way am I suggesting that you'll be a dead ringer for McCartney's sound, but this is generally what I do for violin basses when I use them and it seems to work for me.
     
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  14. Tbig

    Tbig

    Oct 10, 2015
    Thanks for the setting advice! You've definitely gotten me in the ballpark!
     
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  15. SirMjac28

    SirMjac28 Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion

    Aug 25, 2010
    The Great Midwest
    I roll back on the bass because the Hofner can get boomy especially with a amp that has an active EQ.
     
  16. beans-on-toast

    beans-on-toast

    Aug 7, 2008
    The Hofner 500/1 has an distinctive echoey tone. He used flats and most often a pick.

    The action on his instruments is set high and he digs in when he plays. This allows for a lot of tone from the hands.

    Look for isolated Beatle bass tracks on youtube.
     
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2015
  17. Tbig

    Tbig

    Oct 10, 2015
    Awesome thanks!
     
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