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Ampeg PN stack vs ENGL stack for rock/metal

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by 4stringnroll, Jun 17, 2020.

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Ampeg PN vs ENGL (stack) for rock/metal

  1. Ampeg PN 210+115

    3 vote(s)
    60.0%

  2. Ampeg PN 410+115

    1 vote(s)
    20.0%

  3. Ampeg PN 210+410

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  4. ENGL E410B + E115B

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  5. Ampeg PN-410-HLF

    1 vote(s)
    20.0%

  6. ENGL E410B

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  1. Jun 17, 2020 #1
    4stringnroll

    4stringnroll

    Jan 19, 2016
    Hungary
    I would like to replace my Warwick 611 Pro cabinet because for practical reasons.
    It's big and heavy.
    At the same time I want better sound quality cabinet/cabinets.
    We play heavy metal/hard rock.
    Currently I use an ENGL 1030 Rackhead as a power amp (500w/8ohm, 800w/4ohm).
    As preamp I use Tech21 GED-2112, Ampeg SVP-Pro.
    Recently I purchased a Kemper.
    (It's is under experiment... perhaps will replace the preamps).
    I use Spector basses (Rex4 Pro, Euro4 LX, Euro5 LX) in tuning D.

    What would the best choice/setup?
    Single 410 or stack?
    Has anybody experience with these cabinets
    (loudness, sound, how modern or vintage character)?

    Thank you for answers and opinions!
     
  2. Jun 17, 2020 #2
    Lovep

    Lovep Supporting Member

    Mar 17, 2011
    Indianapolis, IN
    I’ve owned all of the PN series cabs. I enjoyed the 410 as a stand-alone cab. It goes very low and the highs are nice and clear.

    The PN115HLF x2 sounds stellar and I still own this setup. I also use a Tech21 preamp in front of my Ampeg heads.
     
  3. Jun 18, 2020 #3
    4stringnroll

    4stringnroll

    Jan 19, 2016
    Hungary
    Thank you for answer!

    Has the PN410 enough mids or it's mid-scooped? (I like the "growl" of my Spectors.)

    And do you think is it enough (loud) as a standalone cab for us?
    (2x guitarist, 2x all tube ENGL half stacks, loud drummer).
     
  4. Jun 18, 2020 #4
    Lovep

    Lovep Supporting Member

    Mar 17, 2011
    Indianapolis, IN
    The PN-series are not mid-scooped at all. They are very transparent and easy to EQ. I think it would be loud enough--especially if you can push 400-500w thru the cab.

    I have the PF-series PF115he and used to own the 210AV and they are definitely more mid-scooped than any other speaker I have used.
     
  5. Jun 18, 2020 #5
    High Camp

    High Camp

    Oct 3, 2013
    Netherlands
    Nice to read something about the PN-series. These posts don't come by too often...:)
     
  6. Jun 18, 2020 #6
    Lovep

    Lovep Supporting Member

    Mar 17, 2011
    Indianapolis, IN
    I agree...the PN-series still competes with the top of the line NEO-cabs out right now...and they have been out for years!
     
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  7. Jul 14, 2021 #7
    tripp2k

    tripp2k

    Oct 31, 2010
    DFW-TX
    I have a PN-210 and PN-115 stack that is stellar. I’ve used the SVT410 and Mesa PH215 and it stacks up against them. Definitely lighter to carry and easy to EQ with my Mesa D800+ or my backup Markbass LMIII. I bought used at a killer price I’ve not seen since (it was a fire sale by a guy who needed to move them in a hurry).