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Ampeg PortaFlex 500 and Avatar 2-10 -- what to expect

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by ArtechnikA, Oct 3, 2017.


  1. ArtechnikA

    ArtechnikA I endorsed a check once... Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 24, 2013
    SEPA
    I'm playing in a blues band competition and that's the mandatory supplied backline.
    Ampeg is not really my preferred tone but I expect I'll have enough EQ on the pedalboard to compensate.
    Organizer assures the 2-10 is 'easily adequate for the room' but I am skeptical it will respond well to my low 'B' which figures prominently in the songs we're performing.

    I've had good results with 1x12, 4x10, and 4x12 but I've never played a 2-10, or any Avatar.
    I tend to run amps pretty flat so there's minimal adjustment needed when I just go to the PA.

    Thought from the Avatar crowd, please...
     
  2. scuzzy

    scuzzy

    Feb 15, 2006
    Troy, MO
    I have an avatar 2x10. If positioned well, you won't have any problems hearing any note you play, if they are correct on the venue size. It won't push a big venue on its own, but will be great for self monitoring.
     
  3. ArtechnikA

    ArtechnikA I endorsed a check once... Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 24, 2013
    SEPA
    Exactly my concern.
    Well - that and its fidelity and response to a B.
    I kinda need to hear myself (fretless) but it's a show - the audience (judges especially) need to hear me.
    They claim they can put some bass in the monitors for the drummer (already I am skeptical...) which should mean it can be in the PA, but I have my doubts. I'm not going to stress, because "they should know what they're doing" and I have limited control over the situation besides...
     
  4. scuzzy

    scuzzy

    Feb 15, 2006
    Troy, MO
    If you are on fretless, do what you gotta do to get the cab pointed at your ears and EQ it so you can play in tune. Impossible to say how well it will work without knowing your band, stage, EQ, etc. The cab itself is sufficient if you use it well.
     
  5. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Just go with it. It's what you call a "character builder."
     
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  6. ArtechnikA

    ArtechnikA I endorsed a check once... Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 24, 2013
    SEPA
    Got no choice.
    Fortunately, our current drummer is the first one the guitar guy has ever had to tell 'play louder.'
    Now if we can keep _his_volume under control, we'll be OK.
    He has his choice of a 22W deluxe reverb or a 40W hot rod deluxe.
    In theory, it'll be fine ;-)

    Even if I wanted to try to push the rules and bring my own rig, we're using my small amp (GK 500 Fusion) and 1x12 to run keys...

    It'll be the same for all - but there are few low-B players in blues here. There are a few tho...
     
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  7. Jules Meuffels

    Jules Meuffels Commercial User

    Apr 14, 2016
    The Netherlands
    Custom Shop Bass Cabinets
    Be prepared for the worst. ;) That gear is not suited for a phat B, so dial in some mids to cut trough the stage mix. If possible, add some bassguitar on your monitor.
     
  8. OP,
    It may not be optimal but hopefully other acts may adjust the 2x10 for better reference during their slot. Likely, there will be FOH sound and monitoring which is why they are giving you a backline, to reduce stage churn and the amount of work the sound tech has to adjust. Your drummer will likely have to use gear he/she's not familiar with if that's of any comfort. Good luck and try to enjoy yourself.
     
  9. shoot-r

    shoot-r

    May 26, 2007
    Illinois

    Been gigging "two" Avatar 210 cabinets loaded with Eminence 2510 Neo drivers for many, many years.
    Using a old, passive, 4 string Jazz (so I can't speak about a 5), powered with Mesa M-6 Carbines with a LOUD outlaw country band.
    Used at everything from local animal clubs/pubs/bars to large outdoor stage shows.

    At rehearsals, small gigs with FOH, I use one 210 cabinet set vertical and angled up at my ears with good results.
    But I MUCH prefer to have both 210's stacked as a vertical 410.

    To my ears, the Avatar 210 cabinets, (((depending on what drivers their loaded with))), are one of the louder commercially built 210 cabs.
    Also, to my ears, very good lows and mids, highs can get somewhat brittle at high volume through the Avatar's Foster horns.

    Keep in mind, it's only two 10" drivers and will only go so far, listen for any stressing of the drivers, and I'd say that about ANY manufacturers 210 cabinet being used as a stand-alone.
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2017
  10. shoot-r

    shoot-r

    May 26, 2007
    Illinois
    O.P., how'd it work out with the PF-500/Avatar 210 combination?
     
  11. ArtechnikA

    ArtechnikA I endorsed a check once... Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 24, 2013
    SEPA
    It's this Sunday (October 15) - I'll let you know...
     
  12. ArtechnikA

    ArtechnikA I endorsed a check once... Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 24, 2013
    SEPA
    The promised Ampeg + Avatar had become some kind of teeny GenzBenz over a small (1x10 maybe? Certainly no bigger than a 1x12) GenzBenz cab, plus something else (might have been that 2x10) under the GB cab. The 2x10 was pointed at the drummer, the 1x10 was pointed into the stage area, and it all sounded pretty good from my vantage. And other bands (we were up first...) sounded pretty good too, but I have no idea how much of that was from the big sub mated with the QSC 12 FOH mains...

    I got compliments on tone, but everybody was passing out compliments all day long (supportive audience) so I'm not letting any of it go to my head. Whatever combination it was, it was working. I'll try to circle back and post a video once I get it edited down...
     
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