Ampeg SVT 7 PRO vs Ashdown ABM EVO II 900

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by mouthmw, Jul 16, 2013.

  1. mouthmw

    mouthmw

    Jul 19, 2009
    Croatia
    Alright, so it's a brand new Ampeg SVT 7 versus an older made in England Ashdown.
    What I'm looking for/interested in:

    - warm rounded tone, no ultra lows/highs, no modern character.
    I love mids, that's why I use Darkglass VMT as an always on light OD/tone shaper. I like punchy, grindy stuff. So I don't need too much overdrive from the amp, since I can get that from VMT. More of an old school, vintage tone.

    - reliability. I'm a bit worried about SVT 7s dying out like they do, but hey, who knows. How's the Ashdown realiability? Not sure about that, but I know some people love em, some hate em.

    - power. Which one gets louder? I know ABM 900 is best used when hooking up two 4ohm cabs to get most out of it. SVT 7 Pro should be all the power I'd need. I have a GK 412 NEO right now, but I might go for 2 x something 4ohm cabs. My GK700RB II gets loud enough with it, so I don't think either should be a problem.

    - how much eq flexibility do I need? Not too much, Like I said, I like being heard in the mix, so mids are nice. Don't like too much clank, don't use tweeters, don't want boomy lows. Don't like mud either. I like both my low notes and high notes to regain some clarity and be heard.

    - portability? Don't care. I know Ampeg is lighter D class, but I actually don't mind having something heavier and (possibly?) sturdier.

    - effects pedals. How well do they play with them? I use quite a bit of effects (8 pedals to be exact), so I want them to project nicely - like phasers, delays, wahs, fuzz, OD.

    This is mostly a rock/hard rock/metal situation. I think both should cover any genre though?

    In a nutshell:
    Ampeg would cost me twice as much.
    I'd like punchy, rounded, warm tones that would complement my Darkglass VMT, retain clarity and fit nice in a rock mix.
    Which one sound more tube like?
    Which one gets your vote and why?

    Thanks!
     
  2. eyeballkid

    eyeballkid

    Jul 19, 2009
    I used to be an ampeg fanboy...that is, until I got an Ashdown.
     
  3. Marial

    Marial weapons-grade plum

    Apr 8, 2011
    I practice through a 7 Pro into a Classic 410 HLF. I own and gig through an Ashdown ABM 500 EVO II 210 combo. For tone, for my tastes, the Ashdown absolutely SMOKES the Ampeg rig. The Ampeg is dry and sort of characterless, the Ashdown is warm, round, and organic by comparison. My guess is that it has something to do with the enormous transformer and the tube pre section, but I'm neither an electrician nor an amp guru...

    Don't get me wrong, the 7 Pro is a very nice amp, and I've owned and gigged a 4 Pro, but I like a really warm tone, and the Ampeg Pro series, thus far in my experience, doesn't do it for me. It's not necessarily all that modern sounding, but it's just a little harsh for my tastes.

    My Ashdown has had two issues: the VU meter bulb going out, and the transformer coming loose at one point. I haven't bothered to replace the VU bulb (a local outfit does an LED conversion so it will happen at some point) and the transformer hasn't moved since I got it fixed a number of years ago. Other than those two instances, it's been an absolutely bomb-proof, dependable, tough amp through a LOT of gigs. I like it so much I had Soldano retolex it put a cloth over the grill and it feels like I have a new 'vintage' British amp. I've yet to play through another amp that works for me as well as this particular one.

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  4. mouthmw

    mouthmw

    Jul 19, 2009
    Croatia
    What do you prefer in Ashdown compared to Ampeg?

    Thanks for your replies guys, appreciated!
     
  5. JP Morin

    JP Morin

    Mar 15, 2011
    Quebec
    if you ever go for the 7 pro... the JJ tube in it is nice, but i can get farty lows pretty fast and you may like a tung sol as well in it... very warm and vintage character: Nice round and cleaner lows and plenty of warm mids with a bit of roll of highs... It gives more headroom than the JJ. The tung sol tubes works very well and warmth well the SVT7, a lot... This tube was an around 25$ investment that made it for me !! :)
     
  6. eyeballkid

    eyeballkid

    Jul 19, 2009
    ampeg has the distinct low mid bump that seems a but narrow and muddy to me, where the Ashdown has a more natural sounding eq, but it can still do a throaty ampegish growl. it sounds more dynamic and responsive to me and the overdrive blend means you can get exactly the amount of grit I want where the ampeg seemed to go from clean to buzzy right away.
    ampeg always had me twiddling. Ashdown has me smiling.

    I remember the first show I played with my Ashdown. I couldn't get over what a GREAT rock tone I had! then I noticed my guitarist was looking at me while playing with a look of "what did he do?". after a few songs he asked "what pedal are you using that sounds so awesome?". I wasn't using one...just the amp.
     
  7. mouthmw

    mouthmw

    Jul 19, 2009
    Croatia
    Interesting. I've read a few threads where people say it takes quite some tweaking to get a good tone out of Ashdown.
     
  8. Marial

    Marial weapons-grade plum

    Apr 8, 2011
    My experience is similar to eyeballkid's. I had to tweak the EQ on my SVT 4 Pro considerably, and use an Aguilar Tone Hammer DI, to get a tone I liked. With the Ashdown? I dialed it in once, using the three main knobs, and except when someone else has used it and changed settings, I haven't had to do anything beyond slight adjustments for a room here and there. I also no longer use the TH DI. The only reason I haven't sold it is you never know when a piece of gear like that might come in handy. FYI, the 4 Pro I owned sounded better than the 7 Pro I currently rehearse through.

    For me the Ashdown is a much simpler amp to deal with to get the tone I like.

    Honestly, you're not going to really know unless you get to test each of them. For those who needed to tweak an Ashdown to get a useable tone it may simply be that they didn't really like what it does, just like I didn't ultimately care for what my 4 Pro did. They're different amps and have different sounds.